I would, if I could find their products.....About the only thing Danish that I can think of that is imported into the USA is Carlsburg Beer, which I hate to say, is pretty bad!......Give me some other ideas!....I am willing to support this small nation that has has taken a stand for it's culture and values!.....Viva Denmark!!!......

Good day to you all jurks insulting eachother,,
why is this anger? easy boys and girls,, cool down,, think about it,,they insult your pophet, insult theirs,, see,,very easy,,they call you Muslims names,, call them names,, you are all sick in your brains, stupid, and you all really need a shrink that even more sick than you all are,,
The world is full of hetred and Predigest Thanks to you all,, go find yourselves somthing decent fruitful to do instead of teaching all this hate.
You all go to hell

I can't believe, what the Muslims partly are thinking. They feel offended by the cartoons is understandable, but not, that some of them want us to feel like them or even to behave like them. They live in our countries and we not in their countriey. So if they don't like it in Europe, they should go home.

Your submission was well and nicely written but I do think you miss a vital point regarding freedom of speech.
As you may have seen in my prior post, I think it was pointless and lack of taste to publish the drawings, but basically it is beside the point what I think or for that matter what our government or prime minister thinks.
In our society they, being the newspaper, have the right to do so.
They could and properly would print a cartoon of the holocaust or the “Zionists” if they thought there was a point to do so at any given time.
Properly many would be upset but I could NEVER imagine this reaction with threats on human life, damage of property and this sort of violence…. NEVER !
I have seen many cartoons in Denmark making fun of our God, Jesus, Jews, Buddha, our Prime Minister (for that matter there are 10 of him each day), our Queen, Princes or what ever.

That is where the whole difference lays.
Whenever “you” … not you personally I hope, but a lot (not all) of Muslims see this the wrong way and you simply don’t get “our way”.
So somebody insulted you, so somebody made fun of your religion ….. so what ?

Call them a bastard and don’t buy Jyllands Posten.

But you instead “you” want to take it out on a lot of other people and your reaction just make it that more of a “good story” and make many other papers re-print them and there you go… you have an International incident.

I really don’t care about your religion, truly I don’t !
I truly don’t care about a lot of religions …. I have my own.
And if you make a carton of Christ … I would properly think to myself, you ignorant bastard and go have a kebab, because hey … the Kebab shop owner didn’t make the drawing and he makes great food.

And Bashar … dawn, I’m sorry to say to …. But you got to be a stupid SOB and you may represent some people (properly the ones burning houses and blowing them self up), but luckily you don’t represent majority of Muslims.
Alone your strange comments of Jews make you “The Ignorant of this message board”.
Get a life and don’t blame all Jews for what some does …. Exactly what we are “TRYING” not do here …. Blame all Muslims for who ever burn and kills.
And btw .. There are Jews marrying black people, just like there Caucasians marrying Arabs and Eskimos marrying Indians.
Get a passport and crawl out of your cave.

Mr. Arabian Knight …. I must laugh.
All I have ever seen you do is blow up and kill innocent people that were not part of any conflict or was not ready for your attack.
That is what I call a Sissy Knight.
You personally, would properly crawl away of you had to face anybody that was ready for you.
You are a shame for your religion and your people !

In honor of the Danes, I am going to buy as much Tuborg as I can lay my hands on!

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to sign a petition supporting Denmark.

Hello everybody, thank you for this free discussion, and I appreciate if you accept my comments below.

I am Muslim, and I am proud to be, I am not irritating anybody here, but I am really proud and happy since I understand Islam very well and in the proper way.

I feel sorry for what the Danish cartoonist did by mocking against our Great Prophet, peace be upon him, and I want to clarify hereunder the reasons behind this entire crisis.
The points that I am going to talk about today are:
1) The causes for the often idea-conflict between Muslims and Europeans, and the answer to them.
2) Quran does not mock against Jews.
3) The western free of speech concept and its biasness.
4) Islam & democracy.

1) The root causes of all of these conflicts happen from time to time between Muslims, and European-Christians, can be summarized in two points:

A) The Europeans have an incorrect perception and distorted image about Islam and our Great Prophet Mohammad, peace be upon him.
B) The Europeans always mix between the relation between the Muslims & Jews and the fight against the Zionist invasion and occupation of Palestinian lands.

The only one blamed as being the reason for the first point are the Muslims themselves, because they do not really reflect the real image of Islam and they practice Islam improperly. Also, there are some suspicious minorities who do evil practices under the name of Islam.

I agree that we do not sell Islam very well, we do not have useful resources about Islam for Non-Muslims, and we do not utilize media properly, I feel sorry about that, but really our Islam is really very great, and I urge you to read more about Islam from unbiased point of views.
I suggest:
1) http://www.masud.co.uk/ISLAM/nuh/default.htm
2) http://www.islamicity.com/mosque/Intro_Islam.htm

Regarding the second point about the mix between Zionists and Jews, I’d to like to clarify as follows:

We do no fight Zionists because they are Jews, but because they invaded and occupied our lands, and committed massacres against our people, just as Algerians did against France, and just as Austria did against Germany. We just defend our land that has been given to Zionists by British government 1948 based on Balfour's Promise 1917 ( http://www.raceandhistory.com/worldhotspots/Israel.htm ).

Muslims are not the only enemy of Zionists, also Arab Christians, and some real Jews that we really respect them, and we have no problem at all with them, please visit these links:

1) http://www.nkusa.org/
2) www.jewsnotzionists.org/

These are samples only and there are a lot, just try to search.

2) Regarding the movie above, Quran doesn't mock against Jews or even Christians, or even abuse them, but Quran states some historical facts about some parts of people who disobeyed the Great Prophet David, Peace Be upon Him. and God punished them by transforming them into apes and pigs, these people were

"Say, shall I tell you of recompense with God worse than that? __ Whom God cursed, and on whom He was wroth, and whom He made apes and swine, and who served the idols (Taghut)? Those are the ones worst-placed and furthest astray from the even way."(Quran: 5-60)

So He is talking about the people who disobeyed David and served idols instead of God, so they were deniers, they were not even Jews, since Judaism started with the Great Prophet Moses, Peace Be upon Him, who was after the Great Prophet David, Peace Be upon Him.

3) The western free of speech concept: your concept free of speech has been developed by some philosophers based on democracy philosophy, the concept could be wonderful if it was objective and unbiased concept, but unfortunately it is not.
Mocking against Muhammad, Peace Be upon Him is permitted, but questioning holocaust is prohibited and a severe crime, isn’t it. Could the Danish cartoonist do a cartoon about the holocaust, or against Zionists? The Muslim philosopher Roger Garaudy was convicted and charged in the country of freedom for similar reason, please read:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Garaudy

So there are some people that has a protection against mocking, and questioning???? So does this system objective???
Is this free of speech???

4) Islam & democracy: some people above wrote that Islam does not meet with democracy, and here I do agree, however, I do not consider this as an insult to Islam, because Islam has a better system than democracy that it is more fair and effective as well. For instance, if you ask a company like G.E. to implement a well known system such as ISO system, I think this will be considered an insult to them.
By the way, questioning democracy and your free of speech concepts are aggressively refused by you, in a way that contradicts with the basics of democracy and free of speech.

I hope if you accept my opinion without feeling offended.

Best Regards,

Ashraf Yaseen

Thankyou for supporting us in this difficult time...like we´ve supported americans before..
But do please not expect all of us to share your political conservative beliefs just because you support us..
you would really support us more if you told the fundamental muslims off, and tried to influence the worlds biggest fascist countries to give up their boycutts.

I DK there´s recently been an ongoing debate about boycutting our locals pizzarias and vegetable dealers..(who, mostly, are foreign muslims)
That is not the way forward. The way forward is defending our right of free speech, tolerance, patience by debate and diplomatic tools.
The way forward isn´t to make campaign after campaign in the name of Boycutting "Buy danish" and drawings in other newspapers

(Btw; the foreign newspapers all forgot to pay and ask the drawers for permission, and the newspapers sold more than normal...is that solidarity or pure profit?)< Just a thought for ya´ll..

So stop campaigning and work the political world instead...if you please

Frengerine> you aren´t anymore danish than you are muslims!

I'm piss on all muslim, and if europe won't wake up we will lose. WE HAVE TO FIGHT with this religion,

Hello everyone,

I wanna thank each and everyone of you from the bottom of my heart, for your "support Denmark"-campaign.

It's heartwarming to see who's your true friends and allies in troubled times.

Today, our freedom of speech is under attack from the muslim world, so we all need to face this threat to be able to continue or lives and "business as usual" in the future.

Pls keep up the good work and support, we need it,

Once again, thank you and good bless,

Thomas Nielsen
Copenhagen,
Denmark

Yesterday you said nothing happens to someone who leaves islam, and that the rest is propaganda. I did a tiny bit of research, or rather "searching". And I found among other things this:
"in Egypt, if anyone left Islam, it was automatically assumed that he had become a Christian and therefore must be killed. Because of this, fundamentalists sent two men to ambush me and kill me. It happened when I was walking home from visiting a friend. It was only a fifteen- or twenty-minute walk through Giza . I was on Tersae Street , near my home, when I saw two men standing in front of a grocery shop. They we redressed traditionally with the long, white robes, long beards and head coverings. I thought they were just customers. I never imagined they would do anything to me.

When I reached the shop, they stopped me, and then suddenly both pulled out knives and began trying to stab me."
The link is www.arabicbible.com/testimonies/gabriel.htm

Now you will no doubt tell me these are lies. But you know what attracts me in the text: the civilised tone, the fact that it is rationally argued, and the sense it was written by an honourable man, someone who was able to question his preconceived beliefs, and was courageous in his quest for the truth. Someone I would be proud to call my friend, whatever his religion. And these qualities have been very rare in the "discussion" I have monitored on this site over the past few days, from your side certainly, but also from the "western" side. I have been appalled by the rudeness, the lack of logic, the yelling and the screaming. It has been an eye-opener. Never before have I been called an Arrian bastard, or has someone told me I carried genes of Nazi soldiers that occupied my country. I've had it ....

i do not hate jew...but they fuck up your jesus and it was for a few dolares the pop free them from jesus blood better for you to convert to islam....becaude chritian do not accept jew..by the way the jew they have the right to massacre palestinian in sabra and chatila...oohh yeahhh you guys are the jew.you guys said that god is poor and you guyas are the rich the jew ortodox his wife wear a veil on her hair walk behind her husband..have 600 or more stupid rules do not acccept black, only can marry a jew.otherwise a sin ....i do not hate jew.....you guys kill and masscre and go cry on that stinky wailing wall and wash you horrible sins i do not hate jew....cry and fuck up europpe becuase what did hitler did with your own kind and now doing the same with the aplestinian i do not hate jewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww........
a woman in the jewish believe have to sleep outside the room if she has her period and after have to bath seven time in a big pool and flush very good isnt that right my non muslim friend....by the way i saw a dream that your own father did you when you was kid the pedofile is your own father but you do not know...ask your dady i do not hate jew

Sorry guys, I had to laugh today when I saw the Danish news.
This elderly guy from Kuwait wanted to declare war on Denmark.

Ok, this is gotten way past out of control. This has gotten ridicules.

As a Dane I would say that the drawings made by Jyllands Posten was not too smart of a move and I still think that with the freedom of Speech comes a responsibility to shut up as well.
Basically the drawings was not “nice” and I’m sure that if the drawings was made in a much more “positive” way that express Mohammed with kindness or anything else, the response had not been as tuff as they are now.

In principle, I think Jyllands Posten fucked up.

My thoughts of our Prime Minister, the one I even voted for, I think he should have been out much sooner saying that he personally didn’t like or approved of the drawings, but there was nothing he could do…….. but who knew the reactions would be that strong.
However, I’m pretty sure that if he had done that, the newspapers and the opposition would have fried him and called him a chicken. Now they all fry him for NOT doing so soon.
I remember how all the news paper back then supported him in not taking a stand in the matter …. Not most of them blame him for it
Politics are politics and its one big kindergarten anyway and Media´s has it by only to looking at the present and what sells.... and oh yeah .. they are so clever in hinsight.

ok, back to the protests.
I actually do understand why Muslims takes offend…. I truly do.
I even understand why there are some civil actions for boycotts.
But there is a long way from “civil actions” like boycotts to beating up people, declaring Jihad, calling in bomb threats and maybe soon terror.

I tend to say ….. guys, Muslim brothers, friends …. Get a life !

But thinking about it … that may just be the whole point of it.
They DON’T have a life …. At least not the people reaction that strong.

I mean, blowing yourself up and take people with you that properly don’t even agree with Jyllands Postens actions is that the Muslim or Muhammeds way ?
Would he really condole that ?
Is he going to say “hey dude, good job you Terrorist MasterMind. You showed them and here are your 30 virgins” …. I don’t think so.
And where are the poor victims going … are they going to Muslim heaven as well because they were innocent bystanders? …. Talk about a surprise for a Christian … first you get blown up and then you go to Muslim Paradise … and if you are a Virgin woman, you get 29 friends and a roll in the hay….. Talk about having a bad day.

Anyway, back to the “Get a life”
As I see it, the problem is that they have no clue of what “freedom” and for that matter “freedom of speech” is. Most of them have been living under one oppressor after the other and saying “stuff” that didn’t fit into the system is just not their way … or at least not publicly their way.
At the same time, lots of them … especially the one burning flags and threatens with bombs has been living that way. If I don’t agree with you or you looked at my sisters hair … I’m going to freaking blow you’re A.. away … or at least part of it.
They are hungry, unemployed and most often (NOT always) uneducated.
I do feel more sad for them and in these matter and I honestly and truly hope for them that Allah, Mohammed and paradise is there for them, because if would be a bummer if it all turned out to be a hoax …. Talk about a waste of life, time and space … and then you die.

But HOPEFULLY some day, they will learn and experience that freedom of speech is precious and even if somebody screws up, that doesn’t mean killing and bombing.
The next thing I hope they learn is that IF somebody screws up, that doesn’t mean that everybody thinks so and should apologize on behalf of them…. And that the beauty of freedom of speech.

Anyway …. I have only one thing to say to the old man from Kuwait that has declared us war due to some drawings a silly newspaper made ….. Next time some stupid dictator decides to invade your silly little sandbarak of a country, take your last oil, rape your women, kidnap your children and take your money and you call for help …. I will say, “well dude … you have a nice day and I’m sure Mohammed will straighten all things out if and when your dead … but there is only one way to find out … and you first.”
Because I’m not voting for sending Danish troops down there to safe your ass a second / third time.

well … that’s my 2 cent

There sure is something rotten - but is it in the state of Denmark?
Well, Jyllands-Posten, the danish newspaper that has become famous all over the world, has today recieved a bomb-threat.
Where it was a practical joke or not is not the issue.
The issue is - why does ignorants tell lies to become known?
Danish Imams states to arabic newspapers and TV-stations that there is brought new drawings in the danish newspapers every day. They have brought fake drawings of Muhammed as a pig.
It all started a project on illustrations for a book - now the hole world is on fire...
The freedom of expression is threatened they say, well so is the world if a couple of ignorant imams can set the agenda - A 50.000$ bounty a head... Boycott of danish goods...
Where will it end?

There is a poll that states that 77% of the Danish public, which includes Muslims, feel that it is not the Governments job to apologise for the actions of private individuals in this case. There is a big difference in hurting peoples feelings and respect compared to hurting their economy, livelihood and life. Same opinion poll also states the 54% of the public feels that the governments handling of the case have been wrong. Narmin when you state that Arabic leaders are listening to the will of the people, are you that naïve? Why did it take four month for the people to react? This conflict started when Saudi Arabia withdrew its ambassador and shelved Danish products in state-owned supermarket chains, since then the rest of the states had to join in the boycott to appear concerned about religion, especially in light of the Hamas victory. The meeting that the ambassadors wanted to have with our government was based on a demand of government enforced legal action against Jylland Posten, in other words actions against freedoms of the press, this issue is so misplaced in a democratic country like ours, that there is no reason for even discussing it. I personal feel that our prime minister should have meet with the representatives and told them exactly that, but that there should be no compromise or excuse to put censorship on the press.

There is a poll that states that 77% of the Danish public, which includes Muslims, feel that it is not the Governments job to apologise for the actions of private individuals in this case. There is a big difference in hurting peoples feelings and respect compared to hurting their economy, livelihood and life. Same opinion poll also states the 54% of the public feels that the governments handling of the case have been wrong. Narmin when you state that Arabic leaders are listening to the will of the people, you got to be kidding me…..are you that naïve? Why did it take four month for the people to react? This conflict started when Saudi Arabia withdrew its ambassador and shelved Danish products in state-owned supermarket chains, since then the rest of the states had to join in the boycott to appear concerned about religion, especially in light of the Hamas victory. I think that if the JP had drawn a cartoon of Muhammed imprisoned by Middle Eastern stateleaders it would serve as a very good form of enlightenment about stateleaders current use of religion in political ploys. The meeting that the ambassadors wanted to have with our government was based on a demand of government enforced legal action against Jylland Posten, in other words actions against freedoms of the press, this issue is so misplaced in a democratic country like ours, that there is no reason for even discussing it. I personal feel that our prime minister should have meet with the representatives and told them exactly that, but that there should be no compromise or excuse to put censorship on the press. This only goes to show that the case is political for the governments of the Middle East, while they use it by secure their religious backing by beating the religious drums of hatred.

Public outcry

Nermin, you are now contradicting you previous statements, when you now make references to past oppression of Muslims throughout the history of the world, perceiving yourself as a victim of a cruel world united against Islam. The Jylland Post doesn’t represent me when posting those pictures. In some odd way you feel that statements made by a private newspaper is my responsibility just because I’m a Danish citizen. You are confusing the issues of origin, when you referrer to past events in human history. Your discourse is seriously flawed.

Thanks Denmark for breaking PC´s dogmas, thanks for defend our freedom and culture of critics to everything, thanks a lot for not being dhimmi. Thanks

Nermin, you are now contradicting you previous statements, when you now make references to past oppression of Muslims throughout the history of the world, perceiving yourself as a victim of a cruel world united against Islam. The Jylland Post doesn’t represent me when posting those pictures. In some odd way you feel that statements made by a private newspaper is my responsibility just because I’m a Danish citizen. You are confusing the issues of origin, when you referrer to past events in human history. Your discourse is seriously flawed.

There is a poll that states that 77% of the Danish public, which includes Muslims, feel that it is not the Governments job to apologise for the actions of private individuals in this case. There is a big difference in hurting peoples feelings and respect compared to hurting their economy, livelihood and life. Same opinion poll also states the 54% of the public feels that the governments handling of the case have been wrong. Narmin when you state that Arabic leaders are listening to the will of the people, you got to be kidding me…..are you that naïve? Why did it take four month for the people to react? This conflict started when Saudi Arabia withdrew its ambassador and shelved Danish products in state-owned supermarket chains, since then the rest of the states had to join in the boycott to appear concerned about religion, especially in light of the Hamas victory. I think that if the JP had drawn a cartoon of Muhammed imprisoned by Middle Eastern stateleaders it would serve as a very good form of enlightenment about stateleaders current use of religion in political ploys. The meeting that the ambassadors wanted to have with our government was based on a demand of government enforced legal action against Jylland Posten, in other words actions against freedoms of the press, this issue is so misplaced in a democratic country like ours, that there is no reason for even discussing it. I personal feel that our prime minister should have meet with the representatives and told them exactly that, but that there should be no compromise or excuse to put censorship on the press. This only goes to show that the case is political for the governments of the Middle East, while they use it by secure their religious backing by beating the religious drums of hatred.

The sad thing about this is that the general public, especially old people, will further isolate themselves from ethnic minorities in an environment which is currently breeding stereotypes by making broad generalizations of other people. So congratulation to the far political right and radical clerics, stupefied stateleaders abroad and at home have secured your backing for the next couple of years. What a waste of opportunity.

I hope that this conflict between the western and the arab world will escalate. The conflict is unavoidable. Better now than later. I thank Jyllandsposten for the guts to stand against political correctness and appeasement. We must now all stand together and help by continuing this dialogue and publish our hearts out. The freedom we live under was difficult to earn and it is priceless. The Muslims have too long been able to swing world opinion (http://hmmh.blogspot.com/2006/01/why-does-point-of-view-of-muslims.html) but now it should be obvious to all what the Muslims are after.

Yes, sorry for not clarifying. I was trying to explain the stupidity of it all. The point was that the unfair demonization of Muslims by the Jylland Post should not be justified by demonizing the entire Danish people. However I think you argument about the flag is wrong. I would argue that the careless regard for respect for other cultures as show by the Jylland Post when posting the cartoon, is the same careless disregard that was shown when burning the Danish flag. Neither can be excused by the Danish tradition of satirical cartoons or the tradition of flag-burning as political statements by people in the Middle East. Different cultures value things differently.

About the freedom of speech, the publication of the cartoons were a by a private newspaper. Do you think it is okay to demonize an entire people because of the acts of some private individuals? What I think is hypocritical in this case, is the demonization of an entire people due to the acts of a few. It would be the same as if the entire world boycotted Muslims countries on the generalization that the terrorist from 11. September or radical clerics represent the entire Middle East. I know that unfortunately that there is this perception among a lot of people today, however that does not make it right. What is even more unfortunate is that the way that many of the governments are reacting in this conflict is fuelling this perception. The same as when Iranian President denies the holocaust, that has nothing to do with Israel, as many Jews around the world also feels that Israeli occupation of Palestine is atrocious.

About the boycott, then the boycotts that you have mentioned political, the current boycott is based on religion rather then politics. (although I think at the core the boycott it is political) But religion is argued to be the base of this boycott. What does the Arab countries expecting the Danish Government to do? We won’t censor the freedom of expression among the free press/media. Our Stateminister has apologised for the cartoons, which he sees as offending Islam too, as he states then he can’t control the free press. Many Danish people view that the cartoons are awful and offensive, however we do see the need for the freedom of expression even if we don’t agree with the expressions being made.