Barbarians in the Gates
From the desk of Joshua Trevino on Sun, 2006-02-12 13:58
We [Americans] care about Europe for the same reason we care for the suicidal: because a chosen fate is not inherently a just one, and we are called to act when an unjust end threatens. We care about Europe because filial piety is still a virtue: we are, in the end, a European nation as surely as our peers in the Anglosphere and much of Latin America, and parts of Africa and south Asia. This is not a racial classification, and it is a testament to the encompassing wisdom of the European heritage that it is not. We care about Europe out of self-interest: it is a culture and a way of life that we are heir to — and when we see its internal flaws lead it inexorably (though not inevitably) to this slow death of self-negation, we ignore its lessons at our peril.
We care about Europe out of common interest: its enemy is ours.
We have seen that enemy at work of late. The insane furor over the now-famous Muhammed caricatures in the Danish Jyllands-Posten has metastasized into a true clash of civilizations. It seems that depiction of the Prophet is prohibited — albeit a prohibition observed mostly in the breach — and now that the kufr has violated the law, he must pay. In Damascus, the Danish and Norwegian embassies have been put to the torch. In Beirut, the Danish consulate has been ransacked and fired. In Palestine, the descent into Iraq-style barbaric anarchy continues as European Union offices have been raided, and Europeans have been kidnapped. Danish companies suffer a boycott across the Muslim world; and Denmark itself has seen relations broken with Muslim nations which, though quite happy to peddle Nazi-quality anti-Semitism, cannot endure the thought of mild fun poked at their Prophet.

The doughty Danes refuse to apologize. The Danish Queen, living up to the example of her royal predecessors, has called upon her countrymen “to show our opposition to Islam” in this hour. There is, the Danes patiently explain, this heritage and belief in freedom of conscience, and therefore freedom of expression. It is baffling, no doubt, to those who prefer to express inchoate frustration through mayhem and murder; but little Denmark sees no reason to capitulate to their sensitivities. On Denmark’s side are a few publishers of a few newspapers: Liberation, El Pais, Le Monde, France Soir, Die Welt, La Stampa. And there are a few bloggers. This, pathetically, is the totality of the defense of the West.
Arrayed against Denmark alongside the howling mobs of the fanatically faithful are the great powers upon whom the defense of the West supposedly rests. UK Secretary Jack Straw, egged on by the odious Iqbal Sacranie, struck a blow against small publications daring to insult the majesty of Islam when he declared that the “republication of these cartoons has been unnecessary, it has been insensitive, it has been disrespectful and it has been wrong.” (So much, then, for a European Union providing for a common defense!) The Vatican, which once organized vigorous defenses against these depredations, instead hearkened back to a less noble element of its past and announced that “The right to freedom of thought and expression … cannot entail the right to offend the religious sentiment of believers.” Well. Doubtless the Papacy is mindful of the precarious position of the Chaldeans and Maronites at the mercy of the offended population, to say nothing of the Franciscan custodians of the holy places: between a slow demise by oppression, and a swift one with honor, it has made its choice.
Worst of all is the wholesale capitulation of the United States. The American press has been spineless, with no significant print or television outlet to date having the courage to show the cartoons even in the course of reporting. Going the media one better in the vigorous embrace of gutlessness, the Administration of George W. Bush has come out firmly on the side of the fanatics: “We all fully recognize and respect freedom of the press and expression but it must be coupled with press responsibility. Inciting religious or ethnic hatreds in this manner is not acceptable.” This sickening pandering to the sensibilities of a cohort it has already profoundly alienated is made worse by the abandonment of a wartime ally. Denmark stands with us in Iraq and Afghanistan, and its soldiers there are even now under mortal threat because of this fracas. Add, then, one less reason to go to war with the United States: not only does it botch its planning, but when the enemy gets angry, it will throw you to the wolves.

What to call that enemy is a conundrum all its own. Some would have it that the foe is political Islam; others a radical Islam; others a national or cultural stridency in which Islam is merely an incidental tool; still others a false Islam. Certainly we can say what it is not: it is neither the infantile, sanitized faith touted by the shallow minds of the present Administration; nor is it the innocently beleaguered victim of its dhimmi-minded predecessor. And certainly we can say who, if not what, threatens us: people who identify as Muslim, and are prepared to do violence to that end.
Eschewing the tedious and irrelevant debate over what to call the enemy, and what his precise relationship is with the faith he curiously often professes, this much is indisputably true. It is assuredly this same foe who, having accorded a hero’s burial to a murderer of the Bloody Seventh, having celebrated the slaughter of September 11th, and having called to power the masters of suicide bombers, now feels immensely outraged over the desecration of his Prophet. Know this: neither massacre of innocents, nor mauling of children, nor infamy dredged from the horrors of the Dark Ages repel their consciences — and still less do they spur a reexamination of their fundamental beliefs. But draw the beloved Prophet?
Kill.
The barbarians have won. Let us be forthright about this. In what should be a clear case of right and wrong — free expression good, death and violence against it bad — the great powers of the West have failed in their most elementary duties of conscience and self-preservation. There is no moral difference between appeasing the sensitivities of violent Islam, and appeasing the sensibilities of Germans circa 1933 who yearned for the return of the Volksdeutsche. The aping of the rhetoric of a just demand (for sensitivity!) does not signify the existence of that just demand (for submission!). There is no point of satiation at which the killers of 9/11, Theo van Gogh, Atocha, Fallujah, or the rest will be satisfied. There is no supine posture to forever preclude the “cartoon rage” of today. There is no appeasing gesture to deflect the blow. There is no demonstration of goodwill that will engender the same. There is only weakness — and strength.
We are not among the strong. We have chosen not to be.
“They have won. That is the sad fact.
”I guess that during the next generation no one in Denmark will draw the Prophet Mohammed.“
Certainly not. The ultimate fault is not the murderous masses’, but our own. That is the truth. And that is our shame.
To Danish Dynamite! Long Live the Resistance
Submitted by A New Believer on Sun, 2006-02-12 18:01.
I cannot believe they, the muslims, will ever become "enlightened" considering how they began.
Firstly Danish Dynamite, they are convinced that they are superior because Allah revealed his thoughts to an illiterate, itinerate camel - herder. ( If I hear one more time he was a great man I will scream. ) He may have become a great conquerer through jihad. But this is how he started off life. (Jesus was a carpentar. They need to get over some of this.) Next Mohammed was also a highwayman, he attacked and robbed caravans to begin his jihadic wars. He had to pay those men somehow in the beginning, before the loot added up to big dinars. He did marry a 9 year old girl. I am not even going to touch that. Flame will erupt from my fingers if I even start to go there, I will be so angry. He also married a woman 15 years his senior at 25, not necessarily because he loved her but because she could bankroll some of his operations. (I have nothing against a Demi Moore - Ashton Kutcher type relationship even 1427 years ago. But that man was not in love with her, she served a purpose.) One lovely story is told about how he used his dagger to cut his sleeve off so as not to disturb a cat who was sleeping on his arm at the time. How delightful! What a peace loving man. Just goes to show you, spin doctors have been employed for a very long, long time. He repeated what was told him about the word of god to those who could write, to spread the word. So Allah's words were not transmitted by lightening directly to a parchment scroll. They were written by a men who set down the words so that they should not be forgotten. He founded a religious dynasty that exploded that region of the world apart after he died, because they could not then and still cannot today accept the one he chose to take control of the dynasty. i.e. the Sunni & Shi'ia in Pakistan, people in a town that have lived as good neighbors for years just blew each other up this morning. They are still "discussing the right to sucession for the Prophet! And we even THINK they are ready to become normal, human beings partaking in a civilized discussion.
You are right they are NOT resistance movements. I firmly believe the people who tried to resist his advancing armies were the resistance. Acceptance was at the point of a curved sword, place at one's throat. It was a brave and truly somber man who refused islam, for in doing so he cut his own throat. No Danish Dynamite, they are not the brave, passionate men and women who fought in the resistance during the war.
One thing is for certain though. If those brave, passionate men and women who fought and died for the resisttance were here today, they would be on our side!
Odin be Praised! Baldur Save Us!
Charles Krauthammer article
Submitted by Diresu on Sun, 2006-02-12 17:26.
The Islamic "moderates" are the mob's agents and interpreters, warning us not to do this again. And the Western "moderates" are their terrified collaborators who say: Don't worry, we won't.
Entire article here
Curse of the Moderates
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/linkset/2005/03/24/LI200503...
To Emeda30
Submitted by A New Believer on Sun, 2006-02-12 17:31.
Maybe he does not, but I do understand you very well and your Mohammmedism! It
still does not compute even with the
spin doctoring of facts. You and the Lady of Shalott make me laugh, do the two of you really believe that no one understands? Of course she is Turkish and still in DENIAL ( I do not refer to a river in Eygpt) with regard to the Armenians and Turkish history! (Muslims of course being overly enthralled with Christians.) One thing I have learned is that you will rewrite history quicker than any western I have ever seen if it suits yours purposes religiously, politically, economically,as well as philosophically. Reading is fundamental, and anyone who takes a bit of time will see that one thread holds true. You poeople honestly assume the rest of the world is so inately stupid as to believe whole hog that mountain of pusillanmonious claptrap you have been spilling!
Odin be Praised! Baldur Save US!
How pathetic are we getting?
Submitted by lotty7 on Sun, 2006-02-12 16:30.
Those cartoons were...........oh cartons! how on earth can people get offended by such menial representations of their god???? i mean come on - everyone likes to respect other peoples religions - but if we can get over the fact that in the UK on 7/7 then they can get over some pictures - isnt everyone entitled to freedom of speech or does that only apply when abu hamza is telling his brainwashed followers to kill the west?? the only thing i have to say is look at the islamic calander - its about 3000 years behind our - therefore their thinking, knowledge and civilisation is also 3000 years behind us!
Your opinion is what the
Submitted by Patriot on Sun, 2006-02-12 16:31.
Your opinion is what the problem is, until you understand this simple fact there will never be a lasting peace.
Of Course!
Submitted by Gordonz on Sun, 2006-02-12 16:20.
I get it!
I'll just determine that this piece of land is "my land", and as soon as anybody disagrees...BANG!
Instant Islamic sanctioned terrorist!
You guys are great! Too bad about the caliph and all that... but you have that brain dead pig in Iran just waiting for the Mahdi! Go Shia!
I already know Mohammed
Submitted by lcmslutheran on Sun, 2006-02-12 16:30.
I can see him through the actions that he engenders in his "true believers". I don't need to read what some spin doctor has written about him. He was a murderer, a political opportunist, a wife-abuser and a pedophile. What else do we need to know.
Long live the Queen!
The government is like a baby's alimentary canal, with a happy appetite at one end and no responsibility at the other.
--Ronald Reagan
to lcmslutheran
Submitted by nermin on Sun, 2006-02-12 19:37.
My choice of Muhammad to lead the list of the world's most influential persons may surprise some readers and may be questioned by others, but he was the only man in history who was supremely successful on both the religious and secular level."
Michael H. Hart, THE 100: A RANKING OF THE MOST INFLUENTIAL PERSONS IN HISTORY, New York: Hart Publishing Company, Inc., 1978, p. 33.
Postings by numbers
Submitted by Bob Doney on Sun, 2006-02-12 19:45.
Michael H. Hart, THE 100: A RANKING OF THE MOST INFLUENTIAL PERSONS IN HISTORY
As you keep posting the same stuff over and over and over again, to save us all time you could call this "Number 1", you could call the one about Ken Livingstone "Number 2", the one about the Prince of Monaco "Number 3", the one about 1.6 billion Muslims and counting "Number 4", and so on. Then just post the number in the subject box, so we don't waste time looking at the same tired old rubbish. Good idea?
Bob Doney
splendid idea Bob. You
Submitted by grumpy on Sun, 2006-02-12 20:09.
splendid idea Bob. You forget the one about the "influential converts". And the one about the medical staff in UK hospitals. I wonder whether she has them stored in a separate file. Keep up the good work sir. Glad to have you in our country.
to Mr Bob
Submitted by nermin on Sun, 2006-02-12 19:51.
u call these things rubbish.
well this is your reaction to opposite opinions .how civilized.
i told u before that i will post them again an dagain whnever i find them appropraite answers to some ignorant people here.
but really i am sad as u abandoned your previous decent style .
you didnot reply to me too what do you say about your british soldiers today.
you say they are sent by force to fight there..if that is true .how can they be so horrible like this.
this is not the first time of course.
tehy look as if they suffer from sadism
From Bob1
Submitted by Bob Doney on Sun, 2006-02-12 20:12.
u call these things rubbish.
well this is your reaction to opposite opinions
It's just irritating. This site is so busy that pages don't load quickly. It's disappointing when what you're looking at turns out to be something you've seen 1.6 billion times before. (I exaggerate).
Bob Doney
emeda30, The goal here is to
Submitted by Patriot on Sun, 2006-02-12 16:03.
emeda30,
The goal here is to get everyone at the table drinking, smoking whatever, having a good time, you know "GETTIN' ALONG". For some strange reason (perhaps you can help me) the Americans are at the table, the Europeans are at the table, the Jews are at the table, but the arabs just can't find their way to the party.
You asking this question is
Submitted by Patriot on Sun, 2006-02-12 15:44.
You asking this question is the problem.
To emeda30,
Submitted by mtk2006 on Sun, 2006-02-12 19:56.
"but when the enemy occupying my land , it is obligatory to resist it with what is possible and this is not terrorism it is resistance like: Iraeli occupation to palastine, because in this case no what is called civilans: but all Israeli are occupiers
did you get it sir ?"
With all due respect, I thought this discussion was about the cartoons, the reactions to them and freedom of speech.
Israel has nothing to do with this.
Respectfully,
mtk2
Well, if that's the way you
Submitted by Patriot on Sun, 2006-02-12 16:16.
Well, if that's the way you truly feel then you will suffer. In english you are what is commonly called a hard-headed son of a bitch.
Lost in translation
Submitted by Gorm on Sun, 2006-02-12 15:02.
Jasj is quite right. This translation error has caused quite a few problems for her.
Another translation to “modspil” could be to ‘stand up to’ radical Islam.
Gorm
Ups..
Submitted by JASJ on Sun, 2006-02-12 14:48.
I can see now that it in my last comment looks as though the book I mention is about Islam. It is not at all. It is a portrait-book about the Queen in which she is interviewed by a journalist.
JASJ
I'd like to see Mr. Bush and
Submitted by Patriot on Sun, 2006-02-12 15:30.
I'd like to see Mr. Bush and the iranian president in a one on one brawl. They could televise it worldwide except in the arab countries where it would undoubtedly be blacked out due to the American president knocking him out in the first round.
iranian president
Submitted by nermin on Sun, 2006-02-12 20:17.
the newly elected iranian president is a young man Mr so Bush can never beat him from first or tenth round.
aslo donot be so arrogant with yourself .the iranian football team defeated the american football team one day in world cup at days of clinton.
Nermin makamnaya
Submitted by A New Believer on Sun, 2006-02-12 23:28.
Soccer is not a big deal to many american Nermin, however, they can take him out snipe hunting. Now snipe hunting shows the real test of a man!
Odin be Praised! Baldur Save Us!
The Danish Queen did not say....
Submitted by JASJ on Sun, 2006-02-12 14:36.
It is not true what you write about our Queens statesments about Islam.
The Telegraph refers to a comment she made in a book about radical Islam not Islam in general. Furthermore she did not say opposition as the Telegraph claims. She used the danish word "modspil" which in English should be translated as "challenge". And please rember that she was refering to radical Islam (totalitarian Islam).
Regards
JASJ
Gods Bless The Danish Royal Family and her Government!
Submitted by A New Believer on Sun, 2006-02-12 15:18.
I for one believe that the Danish Queen did not say this! A Queen is always maindful of her people and their welfare!
The Gods bless the Danish Royal Family!
The Gods bless the Representative Government of Danmark - Prime Minister Anders Fogh Rasmussen!
Odin be Praised! Baldur Save Us!