Dan, you are correct, alcohol is an effective disinfectant. There are ethanol based products, of which I was ignorant, I thought that all the gels were based on isopropanol. Isopropanol is an alcohol but it is not the alcohol, ethanol, you can drink, consumption of which is prohibited under Islamic law. I hope this clarifies things, and corrects my error. Still, the fact they wont use it is ridiculous.

Those people who refuse to wash their hands in the required manner -- do they use the bare left hand to wipe their rear ends after a bowel movement? Here I thought "dirty Muslims" was just a figure of speech.

Not sure why it’s in the formulation but alcohol is a very effective disinfectant in and of itself.

 

Plain washing is not as effective as most would think, wash your hands then do a culture; repeat five or so times then check them in a few days. You need to wash at least four times to seriously reduce the bacteria levels even if one uses the proper technique.

How about cleaning Europe and the West from the muslims and islam?

How about deporting, expelling, cleaning, disinfecting the West from islam and the muslims?

Until when we are going to pander to the muslims?

Until when we are going to accommodate them, and change our way of life to suit their filthy cultural needs?

Until when we are going to be afraid of them and their threats?

Who moved to our land? Us or them? Who should change to integrate, us or them?

Until when we are going to be politically correct, internationalists, globalists, idiots?

The answer is:

Until the fucking muslims take over our countries, our way of life, our land, our society.

Until they rule us by shari'a, their filthy, barbaric islamic law.

Bob is right, soap and water would work. The alcohol is only there as part of the gel's formulation, it has no surfactant property. The ammount of ethanol, in the gel, would be minimal, it would have next to no, antiseptic property. However, I'm sure Islam's prohibition of alcohol only covers its consumption; using the gel should be allowed, provided it is not eaten. Any other ruling about the gel is absurd.

It never ceases to amaze me the lengths that Muslims will go to wreak havoc with our relatively efficient and effective societies.

Anyone would suppose simple common sense is enough to grasp it.  But sadly - as they prove again and again - nothing seems to be absurd enough for the adepts of the religion of peace as not to die for. (or better make other people die for).

So - to prevent this evil everpresent and unjustified  repression of islam in Western society - let's don't care about some more deads in our hospitals?

No, better kick out any Muslim worker who thinks he has to put his weird interpretation of allah's will above a patient's life. And hand him a one-way ticket to Saudi-Arabia or another islamic country of his choice.

Alcohol based gels don't effectively kill clostridium difficile. The experts recommend SOAP AND WATER. I know this doesn't make such good headlines for the Sun and other journals, but it happens to be the truth.

To my mind, one should ensure people wash their hands before entering a sensitive area in a hospital. If this might hurt some people's religious feelings or not shall not be the point in this order but rather the patients' health.

Should we continously want to consider western Europe part of the occident, we are to stop this ridiculous debate.