EU Cowardice: Commission Will Not Intervene on Behalf of Bulgarian Nurses
From the desk of Fjordman on Fri, 2007-01-12 14:14
Here is another example of how the Eurabian networks and the EU are holding Europe hostage. On January 1st, Bulgaria became a full member of the European Union. This means that the Bulgarian nurses who have been sentenced to death in a ridiculous trial in Libya are now EU citizens.
The nurses were accused of infecting Libyan children with HIV at a hospital in Benghazi in the 1990s. Some expert studies, however, suggest the infection was present in the hospital before their arrival and its real cause was poor hygiene.
According to the EU Commission, which is the EU’s government and thus the government for nearly half a billion people, protecting the lives of their own citizens is less important than continuing the Euro-Arab Dialogue and strengthening Euro-Mediterranean relations.
Ahead of their first parliamentary session as ‘proper’ MEPs, Bulgarian liberal deputies have come up with a resolution calling for a special European Parliament rapporteur for the case of the six medics sentenced to death in Libya and also for a revision of EU policy towards Tripoli should there be further negative developments. […]
Bulgarian liberal MEP Filiz Hyusmenova – one of the resolution’s authors – argues that the parliament should be closely involved in following the case and even nominate a special rapporteur on the matter, stressing “After all, now at stake are the lives and well being of five EU citizens.” “We would like the European Commission and the Council of Ministers to consider, in case of further negative developments, a revision of the EU’s policy of engagement with Libya,” she added. […]
But EU justice commissioner Franco Frattini said in December that dialogue with Tripoli should continue. “Trying to force the [Benghazi] issue would have the sole effect of destroying rather than strengthening Euro-Mediterranean relations.”
There is one, and only one, solution to this: Get rid of the European Union, as soon as possible, or the pessimists will be right concerning Europe’s future.
EU is NOT responsible, and NOT valid
Submitted by Flanders Fields on Wed, 2007-01-17 22:15.
It is truly shameful where a state will not exercise its duty to protect their citizens from unjust taking of their lives. It is abhorent that a state considers political expediancy more important than the life of any citizen. Acceptance of this by other citizens may be a reflection that the society of that state are themselves not worthy.
The EU is not the only body responsible for making sure that a travesty does not occur. The world at large owes it to insure that stated reasons for a capital crime are truly the reasons for conviction and that the evidence rises to minimally acceptable levels.
I do not agree that "self-responsibility" entails being aware of all unreasonable situations which may come the way of visitors to another culture. Where it is a humanitarian mission (if this actually was), the host country has a duty to the sponsoring country to provide a higher level of communication and proof in order to justify execution of the sponsoring countries citizens. It is the sponsoring country who should insist that accountability standards should apply. Failure to insist, as the EU appears to be doing, is failure to their own citizens and another reason their legitimacy is to be highly questioned.
Mixed utopia #2
Submitted by marcfrans on Wed, 2007-01-17 18:28.
@ Kapitein
You seem to have me mixed up with "Frank Lee", another commentator (and a valuable one) on this website.
1) I agree with your assertion about the allegiance of Libyan expatriates, at least in a general sense (not necessarily in an individual sense). But, you have ignored my first point, which was about the 'rule of law'. If the EU were to follow your 'advice' it would confirm absence of rule of law in the EU itself.
2) Again, I agree with you on EU military capability. But that was not my second point, which had to do with absence of EU "political will". But, it would appear that we agree on that too.
3) The West does NOT "have to" send aid workers to Libya in any legal or political sense. Those westerners who go out of a sense of moral duty deserve respect for that. But, when they do, they should realise what they are doing, out of a sense of selfrespect. They should know that they are leaving the democratic world of 'rule of law' for another world where the 'rule of men' reigns.
@Frank Lee
Submitted by Kapitein Andre on Tue, 2007-01-16 04:53.
What kind of "reprisals" against Libyans in Europe are you proposing? Violating their individual liberties because the Libyan regime doesn't respect those of others in Libya? Wouldn't that confirm that there is neither 'rule of law' in Libya nor in the EU?
I would argue that Libyan expatriates in Europe have more allegiance to their ancestral homeland and Islam than to the states in which they currently reside.
The EU would "launch military reprisals" against Lybia!!? Perhaps you meant to say NATO, or the Brits, or the French? Are we still on the same planet? 'Provisional reconstruction teams', perhaps, in relatively 'safe' or pacified areas? And, I thought that the EU had outlawed 'war' for ever, in favor of dhimmitude.
The European Union may not have the willingness, but it does have the capability. Military spending by EU member states is just under half of US military spending; were the EU to expand to include the Russian Federation and those other European states (not Turkiye) which are not members, its military spending would be half. Indeed, to maintain the current levels of personnel in Russia, and even new member states such as Poland, but at Western European or NATO standards, would require a surge in spending past the 50% mark. Of course, as you've noted, Brussels and Strasbourg would rather have armies of Muslim and Black gangs walking their city streets than an army of their own.
3) But, you do have a valid point about the self-responsibility of those who go to work or travel in places where 'rule of man' reigns. They always run the serious risk that genuine 'rule of law' will not be applied to them.
Yes. Although I hold the Libyan government responsible for the West having to send aid workers their in the first place, I generally believe that states should not engage in war over a tourist who breaks the law unwittingly or not f.e. in the Romantic states, the legal system places the onus on the accused, in contrast to Anglo-American policy.
Only a matter of time
Submitted by Frank Lee on Tue, 2007-01-16 03:34.
I'm waiting for a European reader to suggest that the American military should intervene in Libya -- or, rather, that the American government, by not intervening, is in effect "sponsoring" the Libyan regime and is therefore responsible for the problems in Libya.
Mixed utopia perhaps?
Submitted by marcfrans on Sun, 2007-01-14 20:07.
@ Kapitein
1) What kind of "reprisals" against Libyans in Europe are you proposing? Violating their individual liberties because the Libyan regime doesn't respect those of others in Libya? Wouldn't that confirm that there is neither 'rule of law' in Libya nor in the EU?
2) The EU would "launch military reprisals" against Lybia!!? Perhaps you meant to say NATO, or the Brits, or the French? Are we still on the same planet? 'Provisional reconstruction teams', perhaps, in relatively 'safe' or pacified areas? And, I thought that the EU had outlawed 'war' for ever, in favor of dhimmitude.
3) But, you do have a valid point about the selfresponsibility of those who go to work or travel in places where 'rule of man' reigns. They always run the serious risk that genuine 'rule of law' will not be applied to them.
Mixed Opinions
Submitted by Kapitein Andre on Sun, 2007-01-14 10:07.
While I am against the entire trial and sentence of the Bulgarian nurses, I have to concede that by conducting their work in Libya, in spite of their intentions, they put themselves at the mercy of the Libyan state. They do need to take responsibility for their own self-preservation as it is suicide for everyone to be concerned with everyone else's lives and not their own. However, so long as the European Union and Bulgaria have relations with Libya that can be used to rescue these nurses, these should be utilized to the utmost for that purpose.
Furthermore, in light of the involvement of Libyans in Europe and the United States participating in and conspiring to commit acts of war, the EU should in fact threaten to: (a) launch reprisals against Libyans in Europe, or (b) launch military reprisals against Libya itself if the nurses are executed.
Terrible
Submitted by Dizma on Fri, 2007-01-12 15:00.
Europe is like an old whore flattering her lovers who despise her.