I have a distinct impression that Europeans generally do not recognize the real dangers that are posed by an enemy which is a danger not only to the US, but to the West.  I know Europe's leaders are remaining blind and keeping the people unaware as to the exteme and true purpose of muslim fundamentalist leaders.  The failure to recognize the extent of adherence that is demanded (and will be followed)if a jihad is declared is a deadly threat to the world.

It is not a matter of assimilating.  There will be no conversion on a large scale.  Jihad will not be limited to the US or any geographic area.  Many of the poor immigrants are going to be caught up in it regardless of what they truly want or believe.  They  will have no choice, just as we will have no choice.  When it comes to survival, we are going to be the ones surviving, and procreation will not make a difference. 

The only way to avert this is to adopt sane policies which are based on fact and making the facts known to everyone.&nbsbThere are too many edicts coming from sources urging force against us and against "nonfaithful" muslims for me to believe that such edicts do not exist for Europe. Europe is a target of opportunity where there are low expectations and perceived lack of will.

See this article in the link provided for some details on findings in regard to the US problem. I suspect there are similar tracts in Europe:  http://myflandersfields.blogspot.com/2007/01/muslims-leaders-behave-in-us-as-if-on.html

To think that this is or would be limited to only the US is assinine.

for fear that white neo-fascist teenagers are fixing to crack open the heads of immigrant teenagers

The numbers 18 and 88 are being banned because the Belgian government is crazy, not because of a fascist threat. In france, you will find a lot of intimidation aimed at the whites by young immigrants, but there is little reaction, except for lower birth rates.

the general sense I get from the predominantly white students is that they are accepting of immigrants and optimistic about the nation's future.

Europeans/Americans tend to be kind to immigrants. It doesn't mean they approve of immigration. I wish the USA and Europe would have a referendum over the immigration question.

I find it useful to remember that the socialist ideal that the European elites based their smugness on went belly-up, whereas the American model continues to thrive.

Is it an allusion to Eastern Europe? Not every European country is run exactly in the same way. And so far, European economies are not completely broken.

For those Europeans and American expats who believe (wish) that the waves of Hispanic and Asian immigrants to the United States pose a problem equal to that posed by Muslim immigrants in Europe, I would like to point out that the American Secretary of the Interior doesn't feel compelled to forbid the wearing of t-shirts with the numbers 18 and 88 on them, for fear that white neo-fascist teenagers are fixing to crack open the heads of immigrant teenagers.  The hostility among the various groups is nowhere near as strong as that.  (And the strongest overt hostility, of course, is between blacks and Asians, Asians and Hispanics, Hispanics and blacks, blacks and Jews, and so on.)  I teach at a university with a fairly conservative student body, and the general sense I get from the predominantly white students is that they are accepting of immigrants and optimistic about the nation's future.  As for the tit-for-tat exchanges between Europeans and Americans, I find it useful to remember that the socialist ideal that the European elites based their smugness on went belly-up, whereas the American model continues to thrive.  Americans did not start the recent exchange of nastiness (and, truth be told, they don't indulge in it to nearly the same extent as Europeans)--they had no reason to.  It was the Europeans whose reality was given a jolt; it was they who reacted with defensive petulance rather than admit they had been wrong all along, in both moral and practical terms.

Dan said:
I realize that most of our “guests” are Catholic, but they still refuse to assimilate

If they did assimilate and became undistinguishable from European Americans, except for their physical appearance, what would be the point of bringing them over ? Why is it bad to replace the European/American culture, and good to replace European genes ? Why are we not allowed to remain what we are ?

lawriter said:
the vast majority of Mexican immigrants are Catholic/Christian. Therefore, they share many of the same values of those already in the United States.

Your intellectual theory ignores the real world. I think Dan is right to say that Mexican immigrants are not becoming assimilated. Living in a mainly Mexican district probably doesn't feel the same as living among European-Americans. Just have a look at the crime statistics. In fact, I think that the children of Mexican immigrants cause more trouble than their usually law-abiding parents.
By the way: In the USA, the vast majority of African Americans are Christian. They speak the same language as every one else. They have been there for as long as the whites. Now, would you say that the blacks and whites have become assimilated to each other?

What bothers me in Europe is not the lack of assimilation, or the trouble caused by muslims. What bothers me is the disappearance of my own people. European governments are organizing a population replacement. European babies are replaced by immigrants' babies. Even if muslim immigrants later convert to catholicism, no one in Europe is going to mistake them for our own children. Personally, I won't feel I have anything in common with them, and I'd rather they spoke another language than me. It would give me some cultural protection.

I will make a comparison: When a European couple comes out of the hospital after having a baby, they usually won't be happy if there has been a mistake and they were handed an African baby instead of their own baby. Knowing that the baby is not muslim makes no difference at all. I realize this is incredibly racist, but this is how I feel, and how most Europeans and Americans feel.

I think most of them are in denial, we are pretty much in the same boat; it’s just Europe is in the front of the boat- and as we go over the falls, will be the first to hit the rocks. Why that is comforting is beyond me.

I realize that most of our “guests” are Catholic, but they still refuse to assimilate preferring to recreate the conditions from which they fled so ultimately we will have to deal with them or suffer the consequences.

@ Amsterdamsky

1) The "sympathy" that many Europeans and Americans extend to each other these days, in the form of insults directed at each other, is indeed rather silly.  But, even you should be able to recognise that - on the American side - it is largely a relatively recent reaction to long-standing anti-Americanism in Europe (that is rooted in ideology).  Flanders Fields has elsewhere (on this website) pointed to the responsibility of 'traditional' lefty American media outlets in this regard, and their eager followers in most European media as well

2) Your reference to "debt" seems to reflect more wishful thinking than understanding.  The stock of US public debt and the current annual government deficits are below the levels in major European countries when related to respective GDP's.  But, it is true that the current account deficit on the balance of payments is much larger in the US than in Europe.  Luckily for you, because otherwise the current (temporary) cyclical upturn in Europe would be much smaller than it actually is.  But, the question you should ask yourself is why do foreigners continue to be so eager to "fund your (US) debt"?   Unfortunately, you don't seem to ask that question.  Let me tell you why.  The reason they do that is because they find it advantageous (and trustworthy) to continue to buy American debt, i.e. because investment opportunities are better in America.  They don't do it out of 'love', but because they show a reluctance to invest 'at home'.   Why, would that be, you think?

The BOP current account deficit that strikes your fancy is as much an American investment surplus as it is an American savings deficit, or alternatively it reflects an investment deficit of 'the rest of the world'.

3)If foreigners would stop buying so much American debt, then the NOMINAL dollar exchange rate would start to fall.  The REAL effective exchange rate (which would result from respective adjustments in relative inflation rates in response to nominal exchange rates) would probably not move very much over time, but US employment and output would rise even faster (than they currently do) and the opposite would tend to happen in Europe.    What matters are employment and real output, mijnheer Amsterdamsky, and not '(nationalistic?) symbols' like exchange rates and external deficits/surplusses.

4)Maybe your wish for an American "crash" in the next 25 years will be fulfilled.  But it seems highly unlikely, if the recent history of the past century is any guide.   And the personality of the occupant in the White House is fairly unimportant in this context.  This is ultimately a matter of deep-seated cultural behavior patterns.  Hillary Clinton, or whoever in the White House, is not likely "to make things right", and neither is she going to make your hoped-for "crash" more likely.   

Hey I left the US.  Good luck with your next president.  Maybe Hillary can make things right?  You are doomed you just don't know it yet because the rest of the world is funding your debt for some reason.  I feel sorry for my friends and family there.  Europe is declining but I think unlikely to crash the way I expect the good ol US of A to do in the next 25 years.

Your American reader, before accusing Europe, needs to look at his (our) own southern border to see WHO is in the quiet invasion there. If ONLY it were hardworking Hispanics! Then we must have the backbone to reform and enforce new Immigration parameters. Neither of which do I have any hope will happen. That said:

We must look at Europe and learn a lesson...rather than look and "Tsk, Tsk". Because we are on the same road, simply a generation behind, if we don't make the difficult decisions now.

Europe is our warning. Are we willing to wake from our slumber and listen???

Bruno, I think this will get a link to the article cited: 

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?apage=2&cid=1167467807655&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

I think you are correct, Bruno.  There is a statement regarding the police on page 2, which reflects the situation already present in Europe.  The police are afraid of entering certain areas.  This is assuming that they were even inclined to enforce laws against criminals who are learning to become terrorists.

the link: Check that the URL ends with (too wide to fit) :

pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1167467807655&pagename=JPost%...

This article (see link below) on the relentless muslim violence against christians in Bethlehem is a good reminder of what lies ahead for europeans at large. The jews are already under violent persecution in France by young arabs, and the christians or non-muslims will follow suit. A french jewish dignitary from the Seine-Saint-Denis departement (paris suburb) recently told to a reporter at the annual CRIF (jewish institutions) meeting in Paris about repeated recent violent attacks by "youths" (code name in France for young arabs) on jewish school children in the last 3 days. I listened to that on Senat TV, a TV channel available on the TNT bunch. How come none of the french media said anything about that ??
Article link :
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1167467807655&pagename=JPost%...