UKIP Strategy Draws Blood

The United Kingdom Independence Party (UKIP) really does seem to have rattled the Tories. Today we have the marvellous news that the Tories are abandoning their support for ID cards, a UKIP policy for the past few years, which can only be a good thing.

Then in the aftermath of a blaze of publicity for the slow re-branding of UKIP into the Independence Party, we find Edward Leigh of the Cornerstone (unkindly nicknamed Tombstone) Group firing both barrels at the Cameronian vacuum. Though of course to save his blushes he repeats the transparent lie that UKIP are a 'single issue' party. Well I suppose he is right if a single issue is the issue of Independence, and all that that entails. Add this to Tim ‘Con Home’ Montgomerie’s rallying cry for UKIP in the Times last week and a picture emerges.

They are in the words of the Baroness, “Frit”.

For pity’s sake, Labour are in meltdown and the Tories are running scared of UKIP!

@Mr. Dunphy

"Britain and the West are in moral meltdown and the encroachments upon human freedom will continue unabated until our definitions of freedom are redirected from "license" for the exploitation of vice, to freedom is an avoidance of all sin and a return to orthodox Christian responsibility and Roman Catholicism in Britain and the West."

 

What about Hungary, Austria, Slovakia, Slovenia, Croatia, Italy, various Swiss cantons, France, Belgium, Luxembourg, Spain, Portugal and Ireland? These states remain majorily Catholic? How are they different from their Protestant or Anglican neighbors?

"The battle between Protestantism and Catholicism was off and running."

 

Anglicanism is not true Protestantism, and indeed may still fit into the definition of Catholicism.

 

"The slippery slope has continued and we see this new definition of human freedom equals license infecting the Anglican Church,especially, and British society with a vengeance to this very day: same sex marriage, rampant divorce, abortion, contraception, fornication, euthanasia, and the culture of death."

 

Europe's Catholics were equally unable to prevent such occurrences.

 

"Imagine how far Islam would advance if all Christendom were united as it was at the famous Battle of Lepanto!"

 

European Christians, before and after the Reformation, only united against foreign threats, such as the Ottoman Empire; they spent the rest of their time slaughtering one another e.g. German vs. Pole, Frenchman vs. German, German vs. Italian, Frenchman vs. Spaniard, Spaniard vs. Portuguese, Englishman vs. the Continent, Thirty Years War, etc.

 

@maigemu

"Henry VIII freed England from the control of Europe under the guise of the papacy."

 

Au contraire: Henry VIII split with Rome over his desire to divorce his Aragonese Queen. Rome prohibited his divorce for spiritual and temporal reasons, the latter being that Spanish forces had invaded the Italian peninsula and surrounded the Papal States. Spain's economic and military power and the proximity of her armies to the Pope were realities that Henry's relatively minor kingdom could not overcome.

 

If Henry had fathered a male heir or several males with Katherine, he would have had no need of divorce or turning away from Rome. He had no objection to a single king, ostensibly his son, ruling England and Spain, and therefore did not oppose closer ties between continental Europe and the British Isles. Furthermore, the English were hitherto regarded as the special "children of Rome." Anglicanism is more of an English sect of Catholicism than a Protestant denomination along Lutheran or Calvinist lines, and the English were quite willing later to persecute Evangelical Christians e.g. the Puritans.

 

Additionally, Catholicism remained a potent force in England for some time, it continued further still in Scotland, and the latter's ties to France posed threats to English independence through the 19th century.

 

"He can be considered the first Englishman. Now we need a new Henry to free us from the tyranny of Brussels."

 

Actually the first Englishman was born in Scandinavia and set sail from Jutland to his new homeland; he was either a Angle, Saxon or a Jute. Secondly, the "tyranny of Brussels" can be found in every major Western European capital.

 

"Christendom was never united. Lepanto was after the great schism divided Christian east from west. You really should learn some proper historical facts."

 

Christendom was considered to be a Catholic realm. The Eastern Orthodox Christians were not included because: (a) the Byzantines continued the policy of Caesaro-Papism which contradicted Rome's one of apostolic succession, (b) the Byzantine Empire had tried more than once (e.g. under General Belisarius) to recapture the former Western Roman Empire, wreaking more havoc on Italy than the Germanic tribes or Saracens, and (c) for obvious religious differences. Or by "great schism" do you mean the Reformation or the Western Schism - the dual papacy in Avignon and Rome?

 

"BTW I am sure God has saved the Queen. Her eldest son is another matter."

 

The Queen has done nothing to alleviate the immigration problem of her kingdom or the process of Islamisation occurring within it. She has yet to fully weigh in, even though her son may prove to be a doormat for all those who would colonise his country.

Moral Meltdown!

Britain and the West are in moral meltdown and the encroachments upon human freedom will continue unabated until our definitions of freedom are redirected from "license" for the exploitation of vice, to freedom is an avoidance of all sin and a return to orthodox Christian responsibility and Roman Catholicism in Britain and the West.
It all began with Henry VIII and a new definition of freedom on his divine right to divorce his Catholic wife, Catherine of Aragon. From there, Henry no longer needed to be subject to the papacy anymore, so he would have his own Church and write his own bible: the King James Bible. The battle between Protestantism and Catholicism was off and running. The slippery slope has continued and we see this new definition of human freedom equals license infecting the Anglican Church,especially, and British society with a vengeance to this very day: same sex marriage, rampant divorce, abortion, contraception, fornication, euthanasia, and the culture of death. 'Freedom equals license and not moral responsibility under the Kingship and reign of Christ in the Catholic Church' is the battle cry of Henry VIII still going on in Britain today, a battle that has ripped England and the West from one end to the other. The protestant/catholic battle began by Henry is still tearing the West and Britain apart to the point that Islam has moved in upon a divided Christianity for, perhaps, the final blow in the culture war. Imagine how far Islam would advance if all Christendom were united as it was at the famous Battle of Lepanto! It is this denial of the Social Reign and Kingship of Christ in the Catholic Church, established two thousand years ago by Our Lord Himself, that has destroyed all human freedom everywhere today, to the point that Big Brother must look upon every detail of our lives, even using identification cards to extract even further tyrannical demands! Destroy the Christian definition of freedom as defined by the Kingship of Christ and inevitably western society, which was founded upon Christanity, will crumble and with it all its institutions.
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England neds the papacy?

Henry VIII freed England from the control of Europe under the guise of the papacy. He can be considered the first Englishman. Now we need a new Henry to free us from the tyranny of Brussels.

Christendom was never united. Lepanto was after the great schism divided Christian east from west. You really should learn some proper historical facts.

BTW I am sure God has saved the Queen. Her eldest son is another matter.

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Bibles

Henry VIII did not "write his own bible: the King James Bible". The clue is in the name! Actually King James didn't write it either, but at least had the decency not to execute the translators as had previously been the law and custom. Everyone was so grateful for this that the Bible was named after him.

In denial

The Tories reaction to UKIP was first vicious and nasty (caring & sharing face of the BNP), then tried to ignore them totally and they are now realising they are a threat to them. I think the defection of Prof Tim Congdon finally woke Camoron and his ilk up to the reality of the situation. No more do Tories have the ability to say "where else will the right go?"

Stopping the rot

It seems that UKIP are now offering British people of a conservative disposition an alternative to the liberal-left cabal that has been deconstructing our country since the 1960s.

 

 

 

They appear to offer common sense conservative policies that should appeal to anyone who wants to ‘stop the rot’.

 

 

 

As things stand they are likely to get my vote.

 

idiomatic

It 'll be me again, but on top of not understanding the Brits' talking while on holiday in the UK, I merely understand a word of their writing...