i don't think about running any more....
till where you will run... we live on one earth, and its round....

its time to face the reality..... Neither india will fall, nor Europe....

Perhaps i will also relocate to such a place.... but after my retirement.... right now i am just 24... lets see what future has for us...

Oooi...
Blue eyes are also my weakness..... but perhaps deep blue eyes of a girl :p

belive me, many of them are too good from heart... its true that blue eyes are very rare in india... perhaps thats why u are a sight of attraction....

even if you go deep in indian state of chatisghar... there i have seen peoples of most pure nature... there are coal mines, and those peoples are tribals...

what i like in those peoples is simplicity... they have no greed at all... i had seen that there was special man comming from mine to especially call them to work... after work timings he had to tell them stop and go home.... and those peoples are so simple... when money is given to them.... they say what should we do with this? as what they really are interested in was food and the language they understand was that of emotions.....

for them i was also a sight of attraction... well dressed(but with black eyes).....
I think, you have to look deep in what a person is... sometimes it seems annoying but its merely a cultural differance....

the Question against comes... why they are untouchable... the answer is because they work in jobs like toilet cleaning and so on....

now here start the main twist.... you will not find even a single radical hindu which had supported / who supports caste system. the most insane work what politicians can do is ignoring the whole fact, and those who speak against it.... tag them radical/racist... this is what happening in india.

here are 2 points... the concept of toilet is alien to hinduism, early india goes to jungle ... and they were open on sexual issue... todays india is totally oposite of that. this i will explain as.... we have more exposer to sex in walls of our temples then from life around us. the best proof for this is kamasutra.... which says sex is a yoga.. a basic mans need... if one fulfills/contorl this need, then he can concentrate on others things very easily.

anyways concept of toilet came with Islam in india, though word toilet is coined too much later... under islamic rule the womens were not allowed to come out of her virtual jail... the harems full of hundereds of womens in india... where you think the whole sh*t had gone ? you can still see those corners of harems... if you want.

In fact what the people say as untouchable... they were hindus who refused to convert in past. the punishment was to throw them in a job, where whole society slowly and slowly goes far away from them. there are various examples in indian history.. where people now called untouchable caste were the main source of many holy scriptures, even under Muslim rule....

Where indian goverment should work to bring those so called untouchable peoples with main line peoples... because they had gone away from main line peoples in oppression placed on them in last 12 centuries... the plan is to highlight them, provoke them and make them look totally different from society.... by giving them special tag "Harijan"(given by gandhi). it will not solve the porblem for sure... but will grow the rift...

don't know but for me it never makes a sense, especially the policies of indian goverment.....
I do accept we have some currupted priest too, but what really hindu literature says...

It says a person can be raised from shudra(unhygenic) to Aryan(nobel and hygenic) by providing proper eduction. there are also political figures which make the whole drama by pointing this figure... as Aryan theory had changed the means of old sanskrit word Aryan(which literally means nobel) to a race.
beside this i am from so called high class... even a restriction exist on us... that if we want to go directly inside temple and work next to priest.. then we have to take bath in temple to ensure we are hygenic now and can go and touch god. this law is also applicable on so called low caste.....

i never had seen some untouchability case next to me in my whole life... so can't say what really happens..... but i keep both possibilites open..... one of currupted priest, and other of political stunt.....

In case of situation of Muslims... i dont really think of them because they never want to grow.... Palestein get largest per-capita help. indian Muslims get so much funds from goverment.... still they are in such bad condition... not because they had less resources... but they put whole money in funding terrorism...

thanks vulture...
As a hindu, it will be my pleasure to work with such organisation, so internal conflicts can be removed, especially at a time when we are at the front door of so called "fight of civilizations"...
After relocating to west, the very 1st thing i realized was that west had changed after WW2; and there still exist libels against christians in india, which is causing the big problems between indian hindus and christians...

To change the picture, the 1st thing we need to do is to prepare a platform of understanability between the 2 cultures... anyways this is also the only hope... if we have to fight this new problem with minimum casualities...

I would love to contribute with every means i can, to save this beautiful culture which has evolved after WW2... where a Human is 1st human before anything else.... they all love each other.. instead of dividing them on name of religion....

if i can provide any help... fell free to contact me...

Uh Oh... i am unable to open that link.

anyways my hopes also has a fear with in it... because of those libels existing from WW2. i can bring nearly all hindu priests and leaders from right wing at a platform to discuss the issue... but before that i really recomand to remove those libels... as if we start solving issue without removing libels... then they can resurface in future...

anyways here is a idea of what basic hindus are facing in west...... Perhaps this can provide a base for west to come close with hidnu community... i will try by best to push them from indian side ....
www.metro.co.uk/news/article.html?in_article_id=38548&in_page_id=34
but we can only hope... that we all democracies (pusedo-secular like india and Britain ; or real democracies like denmark and Germany) comes with each other to support each other and share pain of each other... instead of blaming and being competitive to each other to face this war thrown on us.

sorry, i do not have a lot of idea about pagans.... west says that hinduism is paganism... so i will explain it from its angle...as u said u r pagan... so from this angle you are my religious brother.... so here is the concept..

according to Hinduism(perhaps paganism too) , god is one, known as parambrahmn(a name given to him... saying one who is beyond explainable but still ultimate truth)...the theory says that man interest himself in only limited part of that unexplainable god... that is defined as Ardhnariishwar (a combined form of shiva and shakti) infact here is the encoded theory... shiva means matter(particle) and shakti means energy.... further the theory says vishnu (sanskrit word equivalent to living stock in English) originates from Shiva. and further it says the third part is brahma... which represent the soul part.. Better is unknown origion for life.... orignated from vishnu. This transformed entity in us is known as Ishwar or Bhagwan.

Anyways further gods are somewhere better say are higher beings in hinduism… which people do pray, because Hinduism says every thing is holy and derived directly from god. English don’t provide an equivalent for it… but in Sanskrit or Hindi we call them Devas. They are holy not because of the power but for the contribution they had given in development of humans. Anyways something which Europeans know well is India has older roots of Christianity then that of Europe. Hindus had given Jesus a place what Krishna and Rama had, that is reincarnation of Vishnu…. But perhaps during 18th century British feel it a bit offensive… and they tried to force those Christians baptised by St. Thomas to accept that brand of Christianity, which they brought from Europe.

Anyways I had forgive British for all insane what they have done in past in Indian subcontinent, but really something had to be done to bridge the gap in societies. We do know that today’s Europeans / Christians are not that Christians of crusade age, we also know that blaming new generation for work of old generation does not make sense, and especially when they are changed and Pope had already apologized. Forgiveness is the biggest thing you can give, so I think this is really what you have to give now. It was brave step from pope to apologize for crusade and all that bloodshed… and I think now it’s our time to be brave and forgive them.

In case of Islam, I will also forgive them on the day they will stop promoting terror. But I fear this will never happen, Because Jesus never commanded to kill others. It was the viewer who wrote old testimonials like this. But in case of Mohammed, god the almighty had ordered that, giving his own words to mohammed.

so what can we do ?
I will follow the path of my ancestors... i will support West, though they call us radical or extreme mentality... or what ever...

the only thing i learned is, for your survival in war, you have to thik beyond your ego.... west will not join hindu because they think we are Pagan... out dated and so on...

But Perhaps people of books need to analyze... that what ever they think is just a misconcept..

for your info.. its not 10,000 Euro loans..
check this too
http://cultureforall.blogspot.com/2007/03/oh-dear-we-brits-are-really-sc...

" It does seem like that doesn't it? How to get elected by manipulating an illiterate poor underclass by promising free money and special rights. "

so you are promised and paid everything, i will say NO... big NO... if the system was perfect, then how come you are still struggling like us? Perhaps to break your dream i will move only till WW2. you seems to be from the category of peoples who blame hindus for oppression. Let me know one radical hindu who had supported caste system. still we own the crown to have caste system deeep rooted in our society...

but what really is happening? should i put the blame back in your court.... but perhaps my principle don't allow me to blame you... because those british who ruled india, and had made those insane works are dead and gone..the imperialistic west no more exists... and new generation dont think to rule and enslave over others. anyways in world war 2 indians decided to join british in WW2, but those indian hindus are tagged as radical today.. perhaps because they had forgiven british and had come forward to help british to fight Nazis. But look what British had done at that time? given the command of india in hands of gandhi to accoplish the oil politcs. in Nürberg trials a identity called "Amin Al Husseini" was freed for fullfill

so i can see the promises fulfilled.... indians are illitrate.. but who should be blamed for this, the gandhis political party... which grasped the power after indian independent under massive political campign provided by British, or those hindu organisations which were betrated by british and tagged as radicals in modern india... because the asked british to discuss partition of india with them. instead of discussing, the even haven't informed them... and in one day million died, and arrived back in trains full of dead bodies....

don't belive in my words.... check where was gandhi during whole WW2 ? he was in Jail for his work of creating problems.... explore it yourself.