TOTAL... itarian
From the desk of Elaib Harvey on Fri, 2007-09-28 20:05
Below is a letter that has appeared on the internal Eurocrat letters forum. (My translation). In a follow up it is suggested that Shell is running a similar scheme.
On the way for Antwerp this Sunday morning, we stopped to fill the tank at the Total station in Kontich. Our vehicle is registered in the United Kingdom and inspires confidence. To our great amazement, we are forced to pay upfront, before taking the petrol, When we questioned this procedure and its inbuilt suspicion of us as customers the employee, (who was the only one there) told us that our "number plate" is not recognized by the "system". He explained to us that all cars stopping to fill up are filmed and that their number plates are immediately sent to the central control and information processing unit of Total which has the files of all registration numbers in Belgium, Luxembourg, France, Germany and Holland. If the car is not registered in one of these 5 countries or is not included in one of the 5 files, one must pay upfront. Therefore, a multinational (TOTAL) has information to which in theory, (obviously in theory), the national police force has access to!
Do we now have to regard the multinational TOTAL as an auxiliary service of these 5 National police forces? He could not answer a question about stolen vehicles or those driven for other reasons. One would suppose that if you turned up in a stolen vehicle from one of these 5 countries, you will be able to fill up your tank and to leave without paying. And without being worried, since this is the only possible argument in favour of this anti-theft system: indeed, in Belgium, the courts no longer chase customers who do not pay!
Overall, this situation is unacceptable and it would be interesting to see where else this is happening and to discover the true reasons of these "Big Brother" controls.
If this is true it is extremely concerning. As the correspondent points out, if the system is set up to stop theft from petrol pumps it will only stop theft from cars outwith the five countries. If a stolen car uses the pump and drives off there is nothing that the system can do to block it. Unless...unless the system run by Total, and maybe other oil companies has access to the central police computers.
And if they have access to the central police computers that has to be in breach of all sorts of data protection provisions. And if not why would a big oil company spend all that money setting up such as system that had such a fundamental flaw?
I think we should be told.
Aside
One word in the letter I found I could in no way directly translate. "Anti-grivèlerie". This word I discover seems to mean, "a system set up to stop people from taking a service and leaving without paying", such as a restaurant or in this case a petrol station, so with a broader remit than the English 'shoplifting'. I suppose the practise must be common in France, which is why they have a word for it. As in the case of 'schadenfreude' the enjoyment of another's discomfort in Germany.
Thus I propose, seeing as the French have a word for a concept that we lack, and as English is a magpie language, that we co-opt this word. Maybe we should anglicise it first, thus;
Grivel: Verb, "To appropriate goods or services without the intention of paying for them" (French root: grivèler : réaliser des profits illicites ou consommer sans être en mesure de payer)
Example, "Of course we have the money for lunch darling, I grivelled the hotel this morning"
Licens plate holder data is not always subject to privacy laws.
Submitted by K V B on Sat, 2007-09-29 11:28.
The Basic asumption that license plate holder's data is something that "only the police knows" might be false. Here in Switzerland you can just call the local "strassenverkehrsamt" (or send them an SMS) and inquire about the holder of a particular license plate. Unless the holder had it delisted (like you can have your phone number delisted) you'll get name and address.
I wouldn't be suprised if in other continental European countries the law was similar. I remember a dutch website (but can't seem to find it again) where you could enter a dutch license plate and find out who owned it.
Total, as a private company has every right to do what it pleases to protect it's revenue, as long as they stay within the law, and they probably are well within the law. If you don't like it take your custom elsewhere.
Big brother
Submitted by Dizma on Fri, 2007-09-28 22:14.
Big brother is watching you!
TOTAL BOYCOT by the left
Submitted by Cogito on Fri, 2007-09-28 21:06.
Is it purely a coincidence that I heard about a leftish boycot of TOTAL this evening on the radio news?
I thought let me get some fuel at TOTAL, since a leftish callup for a boycot probably means we should support TOTAL?
"To grivel" is an act that
Submitted by peter vanderheyden on Fri, 2007-09-28 20:59.
"To grivel" is an act that the honest customer has to pay. Meaning you and me. So whatever they can find to stop this injustice seems fine to me. However, if the system used would endanger in one way or a other my freedom, I would object. But in this case, I really can't see how this would be the case.
This is information theft .
Submitted by THE DOCTOR on Fri, 2007-09-28 20:29.
Surely this system would breach the Dutch , etc. , version of the Data Protection Act . , in that the data pertaining to ones number plate is not for use by anyone bar the Vehicle authorities and the Police .