Like Flemings

A quote from The Independent, 18 December 2007

Other than the language, nothing much changes when you criss-cross the linguistic frontier [in Belgium]. One thing, however, blatantly changes.

In the French-speaking villages, every second house has a red, yellow and black tricolour flag draped from a window or flying from its roof. The householders are making a self-conscious political statement: "We are Belgians and we want to remain Belgians."

When we enter an officially Dutch-speaking village, the Belgian tricolours almost vanish. The Flemish householders are – equally self-consciously – not proclaiming: "We are Belgians and we want to remain Belgians."

Eupen Malmedy

Just curious, what flag/language is predominant in Eupen and Malmedy?

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@ sepex

 

When I see you write a semi-serious sarcastic sentence like "The famous world language Antwaarps is in fact a Brabantic dialect", I am reminded of how 'provincial' you really are, while hiding behind the mantra of "diversity".  

In my opinion, you are like a 'babe in the woods'.  You have no idea what is besieging your culture today, and Belgian francophone politicians will exploit your kind of provincial 'Flemish' naievety to the hilt.  Keep paying your taxes to the fullest and start learning to speak Arabic, before they drag you before the thought-police of the 'Centre for...'.   

 

flanders, brabant, etc.

 marcfrans said:

 You jump around in your terminology, deliberately restricting the term "Flemish" to 2 specifically so-named provinces, but then suddenly expanding the term "Brabant" to an historical concept which is very different from any officially-designated terminology for current Belgian provinces. 

Just as one can state that "Flanders", refers to the West & East Flanders provinces, plus adjacent areas in the Netherlands (Zeeuws-Vlaanderen) and France (parts of Nord department), the term "Brabant" can be used to refer to the (former) Brabant province in Belgium (let's call it "South Brabant"), Antwerp province ("Middle Brabant") and the Netherlands province of North Brabant. The "famous world language" Aantwaarps is in fact a Brabantic dialect.
The term "Brabant" is used in this historical and socio-cultural sense, rather than in a way of current political entities.

This is not about "artificially dividing" people, but rather highlighting their diversity which contributes to the richness of our culture.

>Are you on the payroll of some leftist trade union, or something...or are you a Belgian francophone eager for more subsidies?  

None of these, I am just a native Dutch speaking Belgian, proud of my country and vehemently objecting anyone who wants to destroy it, whether they speak French or Dutch.

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@ sepex

Well, you got at least one thing right, the Flemish people are indeed typically not very much of  the "extrovert flag wavers" kind.   But, at the same time, the more expressive and extrovert francophone Belgians are under normal circumstances not particularly fond of Belgian flags either.  If today the latter are waving more Belgian flags, it is essentially because there is a great political crisis under way and they sense that their longstanding 'entitlements'  to Flemish subsidies are coming under threat.  Most people would be willing to wave flags for less than for such volumes of money!

For the rest, you are exceedingly small-minded.  Yes , we all know that there are 4 Dutch-speaking provinces in Belgium, plus bilingual Brabant, and 4 other French-speaking provinces.  And we also know that 2 of the four Dutch-speaking provinces are called West-Flanders and East-Flanders.  But, in the broader context of the longstanding clash between two languages and 'cultures' within the Belgian political straightjacket, the term "Flemish" is customarily used to designate ALL Dutch-speaking Belgians (including those in Brussels, and even sometimes those 'Flemish' who are living in French-speaking Belgium, i.e. the 4 Walloon provinces).  There is no better and more appropriate term to designate native Belgian Dutch-speakers than the term Flemish. 

You are wrong about Antwerp province being part of "Brabant" in the context of official names of Belgian provinces.  But it is clear that you are deliberately wrong about that.  You jump around in your terminology, deliberately restricting the term "Flemish" to 2 specifically so-named provinces, but then suddenly expanding the term "Brabant" to an historical concept which is very different from any officially-designated terminology for current Belgian provinces.   Your purpose can only be to confuse foreigners, and to artificially divide the Flemish people (which are Belgium's native Dutch-speakers).  Shame on you!  Are you on the payroll of some leftist trade union, or something...or are you a Belgian francophone eager for more subsidies?    

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One does not see much Flemish lion flags either...

The Dutch-speaking Belgians are just tired of the politicians' games, but for sure most of them just think the same "We are Belgians and we want to remain Belgians" without making too much noise about it, just not being extravert flag wavers.

By the way, not all Dutch-speaking Belgians are "Flemings", there are also the people from Brabant (encompassing the actual Flemish-Brabant and Antwerp provinces), and the Limburgers.