Thanks for your comments.  I'm not really baffled by these folks... amused perhaps... though not smugly... the people of America, seemingly, seem to be losing their marbles too....or maybe that is what the press makes us want to think.

 What is preposterous is Vincep's assertion that Israel acts as a bulwark for the West against the muslim invasion.
How can you reside at a site such as this and be totally ignorant of the "master battle plan" that the Muslims spend zero effort in trying to conceal.
In fact, they have a traditional saying that immemorializes (I made that word up) their alluring dream.. it's called
"first comes the saturday people then the sunday people"
or
"first comes saturday then comes sunday"
Please..  make yourself look more foolish by telling me that it's "preposterous" that Muslims have this in their multi-millenia culture of war and barbarism.
Maybe the Jews and I have tampered with googled and planted all the references to those phrases.
Jews have taught me everything I know.... You know that we're ruling the world.. so you should watch out what you say here... I might get mad if you disagree with me ,causing me to send Mexicans to flood Europe and maybe even Canadians.
 

Marcfrans: "[Armor] blames the minuscule proportion of Europe's population that is jewish for "being LARGELY responsible for muslim/Arab immigration to Europe"

How big a part the Jews play in the immigration disaster is debatable. I will just say that it is a big part. What is preposterous is Vincep's assertion that Israel acts as a bulwark for the West against the muslim invasion.

Me:" You claim that Muslims/Arabs want to destroy us,"
V1974: "Well, actually, they claim it. I take them seriously at their word."

I see a lot of Arabs. None of them has told me they had a plan to destroy us. I think African immigrants probably commit more crime than Arab immigrants, and I don't think they are out to destroy the West either. I think they are naturally violent, and we know that the coexistence of several different races in the same territory tends to lead to racial violence. I think immigrant crime is made worse by immigrant resentment against white people, but it doesn't add up to a plan to destroy the West. In the case of the Jews, it is difficult to argue that their support of mass immigration does not aim to destroy us. I don't know any Jew in real life, but those I can hear in the French media and government and on American websites clearly support our displacement, even when they pose as white conservatives.

Me: "What you forget is that Jews are largely responsible for Muslim/Arab immigration to Europe."
V1974: "I didn't know that "the Jews" set immigration policy for the plethora of European nations. How interesting. Are you going to complain about how the Jews are the vanguard of the miscegenation of the volk next?"

Of course you know of the responsibility of the Jews in setting the immigration policy of European nations. And you also know that the Jews are at the vanguard of the miscegenation propaganda aimed at Europeans. Arabs are supposed to be liars, but you are no better.

Your predictable reaction to my post was basically to suggest that I am a crazy antisemite. Indeed, who would believe that the Jews support immigration to the West, except a madman who believes in conspiracy theories! The idea of Jews supporting third-world immigration to Europe is so far fetched!
But do you not realize that what you say about Muslims/Arabs could make you come across as slightly anti-Arab? Why do you write "the Jews" in double quotes, and the Muslims/Arabs without quotes? Why is it all right to be anti-Arab, but not anti-Jewish? I don't believe at all in your islamist theories. Our problem is population replacement, not islamism. And it is obvious to me that support for the destruction of Europe is much more widespread among Jewish intellectuals than among muslim immigrants.

Me: "We just need to send them back to their home countries and they will stop bothering us."
V1974: "Have you informed the EU about how easy your plan is?"

It seems you don't want to expel Arab immigrants… This isn't really a surprise. Do you think we need more of them, by any chance?

Me: "Our problem with third-world immigration is not inflicted on us by third-world immigrants themselves, but by immigration enthusiasts who bring them here "
V1974: "I guess you mean those darn Jews again."

Not only those darn Jews. But the Jews as a whole clearly support the replacement of Europeans by third-world immigrants, while most Europeans clearly oppose the policy. Most Arab immigrants probably don't have an opinion on the matter. So, it is deeply dishonest to suggest that Israel or the Jews protect us against islamism.

Me: "We should not blame Arabs for being Arab. We should blame those who bring them to Europe."
V1974: "God forbid anyone hold the Arabs/Muslims responsible for their own actions... there's Jews to blame!"

I'm not suggesting we punish the Jews for bringing Arabs to Europe. I suggest we simply stop listening to them and stop immigration. How unreasonable is that? Saying that the Jews are our protectors is pure provocation.

Do not be "baffled" by Armor, Kappert, KA.....

Eurabia is already a reality, and that reality is not only confirmed by the (A) actual growing presence of muslims in Europe, but as much by (B) the head-in-the-sand attitudes of the leftist elites "who bring them to Europe" and by (C) the manifest racism and anti-semitism of some 'rightist' immigration opponents (like Armor and KA). 

On point (C).  As you say, these ethnicity-worshippers (like Armor):

- They do not take their enemies at their own word, but rather like to blame an easier target, "the jews". Many even have a problem with the concept of "enemy" and consider it unreal.

- Like most Arabs, they lack self-criticism and cannot look into 'own' (group) faults.  Hence, while Armor is obsessed with being "replaced" by other-looking people, he cannot blame his 'own people' for that, but rather blames the minuscule proportion of Europe's population that is jewish for "being LARGELY responsible for muslim/Arab immigration to Europe".  Apparently Blair, Chirac, Schroeder, Merkel, Prodi, Zapa-the-tero, Verhofstadt,  etc......they all must be either jewish or being controlled by jews!

-- Like most Arabs, Armor and his ilk do not hold their own people responsible for the 'actions' and decisions of their own societies and polities, but they do not hold others responsible for their own actions either.   Strangely enough, though, they DO hold jews responsible for the bad behavior of others.   

In short, European culture today is overwhelming naive-left in its outlook on the world, in the specific sense that it is naive about other cultures and people anywhere are not really being held responsible for their own behavior (except, of course, the jews and the Great Satan, who are considered by them to be the root 'cause' for most of the world's problems). Basically, we are living in a Kindergarten of irresponsibility.
 

You claim that Muslims/Arabs want to destroy us,
Well, actually, they claim it. I take them seriously at their word.  You must think they are people to ignore and who cannot possibly state what they mean.
 
while Israel is a kind of protection for the western world.
It's much like Constantinople.  It has to fight back the hoards, while the West can pretend there isn't a war going on.
 
What you forget is that Jews are largely responsible for Muslim/Arab immigration to Europe.
I didn't know that "the Jews" set immigration policy for the plethora of European nations. How interesting.
Are you going to complain about how the Jews are the vanguard of the miscegenation of the volk next?
Besides, I don't think that Muslims/Arabs want to destroy us.
As if what you think matters as it relates to the stated goals of Muslims.
 
We just need to send them back to their home countries and they will stop bothering us.
Have you informed the EU about how easy your plan is?
Our problem with third-world immigration is not inflicted on us by third-world immigrants themselves, but by immigration enthusiasts who bring them here.
I guess you mean those darn Jews again. Damn them! I knew Seinfeld was up to no good!
 We should not blame Arabs for being Arab. We should blame those who bring them to Europe.
God forbid anyone hold the Arabs/Muslims responsible for their own actions... there's Jews to blame!
 

You claim that Muslims/Arabs want to destroy us, while Israel is a kind of protection for the western world. What you forget is that Jews are largely responsible for Muslim/Arab immigration to Europe. Besides, I don't think that Muslims/Arabs want to destroy us. We just need to send them back to their home countries and they will stop bothering us.
Our problem with third-world immigration is not inflicted on us by third-world immigrants themselves, but by immigration enthusiasts who bring them here. We should not blame Arabs for being Arab. We should blame those who bring them to Europe.

Dont they (folks like Amsterdamsky) understand that if the Muslims/Arabs were ever to destroy Israel that they (Muslims/Arabs) would then turn their sights onto the rest of the world (and without the distraction of Jews.. so they (Muslim forces) would be even more united)

Rob, Americans are just as gullible when it comes to swallowing whole the MSM swill.
 
Amsterdamsky, take you anti-Semitic garbage elsewhere. You are disgusting.
 

the more things change, the more they stay the same...

Garbage in, garbage out.

The constant unwillingness or inability of Europeans to question what passes for news there is a constant source of amazement and amusement. It explains a lot of European history, though.

And Americans are supposed to give a crap that such people fear and despise us?

"The IDF, which initially apologized for the death of al-Dura, concluded after an investigation that the boy could not have been hit by Israeli bullets."
 
Of course not.  The IDF never targets civilians.  It is merely G-d's will that these people drop dead from natural causes when ever they are blinded with the mere presence of the Chosen's "Security" operations.