Marcfrans wrote: "there is no measurable difference between Kappert and Armor. They are both made from the same 'mental cloth', i.e. oblivious to empirical observation"

"oblivious to empirical observation" is a good description of your problem. You say that third-world immigrants could assimilate to European culture in theory. It does not bother you that in the real world, third-world immigrants cause all kinds of problems and do NOT assimilate to European culture.

Hear the words from our on-line-psychiatrist.

Sorry for repeating myself in this comment, but I think the phrase "Dhimmis to the Jews" is entirely justified.

Dhimmitude is a new word mostly used by internet Jewish "counter-jihadists" who support the racial replacement of Europeans with muslims, blame Europeans for being both anti-Jewish and anti-muslim, and blame muslim immigrants for being muslim.

It is a fact that we are submitted by the Jewish dominated media to a barrage of anti-European propaganda supporting our racial disappearance. Muslims have no responsibility at all in this barrage of propaganda. Muslim immigration is not organized by Muslims. So, it is dishonest to say that European dhimmitude to the muslims is a problem. This problem doesn't exist. Our immigration problem comes from the European extreme left, with a lot of Jewish help. We do have a problem of dhimmitude to the Jews, since we are afraid to denounce their influence, and are not allowed to do so in the Jewish-dominated media anyway. It isn't that we like to submit to the Jews, but the institutions and media that we need in order to denounce their anti-European influence are precisely under Jewish influence. Otherwise, it is likely that immigration would have been stopped and the muslims kicked out of Europe a long time ago.

The Jewish "counter-jihadists" are good at creating internet websites where Europeans are invited to come and insult their fellow Europeans who "behave like dhimmis" and are responsible for the destruction of western civilization. On that kind of site, Europeans who speak against immigration will usually be accused of racism and "antisemitism". The Jews have a great sense of humor. They will even create supposedly anti-neocon websites were non-Jews are invited to take part and denounce "antisemitism".

PS: I read some place that 'dhimmi' was the name given by Arab invaders to groups of people who would not convert to the pseudo religion of islam.

in reply to Marcfrans
"politicians employ selectively 'antiracism' and/or anti-insult legislation, and freedom of speech has become a 'selective' right."

You are right. The anti-islamophobia laws described by Fjordman and the censorship by Jewish dominated media are much more efficient than the murder of Theo van Gogh at silencing criticism of islam and of third-world immigration. I don't think Muslims take any part in passing those laws.

I wish classical liberals and traditionalists could make some headway with that subset of nationalists and patriots who have been infected by the antisemitic bug. As for leftists who have it (Hitler's true descendants), that is another problem.

As far as I know, Jews like Gentiles divide between liberal and conservative on a host of issues. The left-liberalism that makes Europeans prone to dhimmitude and feeds their animus against the West, thus making them friendly to anti-Western invaders such as Moslems, affects both Jews and Gentiles. There is no reason to attribute widespread left-liberalism to Jewish media or Jewish influence or Zionism when it affects all parts of the Western world in varying degrees, regardless of whether or not Jews are present in large numbers. Left-liberalism is threatening to destroy Israel even faster than the rest of the West and hand it over to Hamas/Hezbollah domination. Is that the result of Jewish media influence?

Feebleness and denial in the face of the Islamic threat result from both moral and intellectual failings. Left-liberals and naive right-liberals--who see everyone in the world as interchangeable economic units--refuse to confront the challenge facing their nations, and refuse to acknowledge that the challenge exists or even that their nations have a legitimate interest in persisting.

Left-liberal Jews are left-liberals first and Jews second. That is the nature of left-liberalism, to dissolve religious and racial identity. Left-liberal Jews exploit the feelings of solidarity of non-left-liberal Jews and recruit them for leftist activism (MCPC, if you like acronyms) that is against their interests as Jews and as citizens of Western nations. Thus you have non-leftists suckered into leftist causes on the basis of values the leftists themselves do not respect--the old front group ploy is alive and well.

Islamic colonization is a terrible threat to Europe and a growing threat in the U.S.A. The abettors will be found in all levels of government, the left-liberal media and academia, the left-liberal section of the population, and the naive right-liberals who fondly hope that new immigrants will be seduced by money and Western consumer culture. In the panorama of danger, Jews occupy only a small role and are divided, like other groups, along many lines. Look for the politicians and officials that are abetting Islamic colonization of the West and turn them out of office. That is where the people's anger should be directed.

Marcfrans wrote: "Nobody is being murdered for criticizing or caricaturizing judaism in Europe."

Even so, our freedom of speech is restricted by Jewish ideology much more than by islam. Saying so will cause a journalist to lose his job. It is much easier to criticize "islamo-fascism".
How many Europeans have been murdered in the last 10 years for criticizing islam? Two or three? It is nothing, compared to the genocide of Europeans made possible by the Jewish dominated media.

In 1948 the United Nations defined genocide -- in part -- as "acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, … deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life, calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part.” (source)

"Scapegoating anyone will not save you from your real troubles."

Somehow, you think that scapegoating islam is all right. I don't think you should blame muslims who behave like muslims. If you don't like islam, you should blame the media who make muslim immigration possible. (You should also blame yourself, since you obviously agree with the policy of replacing Europeans with third-world immigrants).

Natalie - the problem is that you can't break the left's wall of silence in order to educate people about Islam. They own the media. Right now the left through their politicans and almost complete media control are the bigger problem. How can you defeat an enemy that one isn't even allowed to name properly let alone discuss in the public square?

Europeans are being legally prosecuted for their opinions, we are no where close to that. I don't think the Europeans will ever unshackle themselves from socialism and all of the pc and multicultural rot that it has brought. Free speech isn't as solidly codified and valued as here. Europeans aren't known as risk takers either. They seem content with a few exceptions to see their basic freedoms slowly dissipated by Brussels. They trust and rely on the government, most Americans don't.

This is in regards to the statement that the Left seems insane (well, MORE insane) for de-facto supporting Islam when the precepts of the Koran are diametrically opposed to the Liberal concepts of tolerance, feminism, environmentalism, pacifism, sexual liberation, separation of Church and State, etc, etc, etc...

The left has no problem collaborating with Muslims at the moment, and they will have no problem converting to Islam if/when their lives are threatened.

Oddly enough, the left is actually consistent in this regard. You have to realize that the left doesn't really believe in anything-- except gaining power. Though most won't admit this (some not even to themselves), leftists simply hate western civilization, liberty, Judeo-Christian morality and any notion of absolutes(read: God himself). Their political positions are a balancing act of subverting or corrupting the things they hate, and propelling themselves to greater power (so that they can more effectively subvert or corrupt).

For many leftists, their Muslim conversion will happen long before there is any threat on their lives. Within the decade, we can expect to see many new high-profile converts to Islam from the left, especially in the political class. The militant homosexuals, feminists and atheists will be placated with some double-speak for a bit, but in time, they will be thrown under the bus as Islam becomes the most effective political weapon for gaining power and destroying the west.

The philosophy of the left contains no fixed principles or ideologies (moral absolutes are an anathema to them). Fundamentally, leftism is a despotic nihilism that seeks to rule a world of slaves, rubble, and corpses (ie. Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union). Their goals align with Islam insofar as it is a totalitarian theocracy that also seeks to rule a world of slaves, rubble, and corpses.

Natalie, you are so right. What's most pathetic aren't the obvious Islamofascists, but, the socialist Euroweenies that sit on the sidelines either encouraging the new fascism, as Islam is a political entity as well as a perverse religion, or have nailed their mouths shut.

Almost 2000 views of this posting and you are the first one to weigh in. So either those viewing the comments are sympathetic to the Islamists, indifferent or have their mouths nailed shut by their own hands.

Europe won't survive this new fascist onslaught. Why would they?

The left and the passive sheeple that support them unconditionally deserve the fate that will befall them. But, historically that's been Europe's story.