@ Nataraja

Thank you for the clarification.  I think we broadly agree on the principles involved here.    I suspect that many in the VB party do too.  The problem, or the disagreements, arise when one tries to apply the principles to concrete people and to whole political parties. And I am sure we all can suffer from 'selective' vision in that regard.

Whether "It's on the rise in its ugliest form", may or may not be true.  We tend to see contemporary horrors more clearly and with more passion than past ones or distant ones.  It surely is not just on the rise in Europe, but in much of the rest of the world as well.  And in Europe it is largely the direct result of the abandonment of 'common sense' and of the basic priniciples (you described so well)  by governmental, educationional, and media elites.

@ Nataraja

1) Indeed, people don't know very well what it is that you are "oppossing".  You constantly harp on a Mr Raes in the VB, and on other notorious antisemites in that party.  I certainly support you on that particular 'front' against irrational prejudice.  But, given your constant 'theme', it is very reasonable for Cogito to ask if it is "really" antisemitism that you are opposing.  And in your last response, what do we get?  The same theme, for the umpteenth time.....Raes and "jewish sufffering".

2) Why don't you try to answer Cogito's question?  Because, if antisemitism were to be your true 'enemy', you would surely not single-out the VB party but also the various "Islam-hugging parties" (who have undoubtedly their own jew-haters).  Clearly, all parties have their own 'wackos', including antisemitic ones.

3) I think - but, please, correct me if I am wrong - that the real reason why you constantly complain about the VB party is the party's opposition to large-scale immigration and to 'multiculturalism'.  So, I think that your 'antisemitism bit' is just a smokescreen.   Like everyone else, you are entitled to your opinions.  But it would be nice, and advantageous for all involved, if people would be better informed about your true opininions and concerns. 

Is antisemitism your reason to oppose the VB? Really? Why not oppose Islam-hugging parties even more then?

I don't think antisemitism is your reason to oppose the VB. You know why? Because pro-semites, like me and many others, know that VB is the Belgian version of the GOP with the strongest prosemite and proamerican line of all Belgian parties. Now that I am thinking about it, I even doubt you are prosemite.

 

If the "nationalist parties"... "purge themselves from anti-Semites"

could you tell me why your own party Vlaams Belang still keeps on harbouring notorious negationists and anti-semites like Roeland Raes?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roeland_Raes

 

As long as the electorate of Vlaams Belang needs to breed on this kind of figures (It would be interesting to see the number of dual memberships of VB members in Voorpost, Ijzerwake, Sint Maartensfonds, ...)  in order to keep its head up I'm afraid the "unite with Israel against Islam"-campaign will keep on bumping into closed doors.

 

> In my opinion, the main causes for the surge
> in anti-Semitism in Europe are,

is that the Jews are "playing" their historic role. They are again, as always, the canaries in the mineshaft. Something is awfully smelling in Europe.

> Meanwhile nationalist parties, who purge
> themselves from anti-Semites and realize that
> Israel is Europe’s front post in the war against
> Islamic radicalism, are growing in the polls.

This is the best possible news. Music to my ears. Any examples?

Vilmos

"The International Muslim Matrimonial Site" advertising really p****s me off.

 

The Israel/Palestine question or problem in Western discourse cannot be extricated from historic guilt and shame. The Levant is where guilt over the Shoah and prior centuries of pogroms collides with guilt over imperialism. Any power that Zionism accrued as a social movement was the direct result of certain European countries' refusal to tolerate their Jewish minorities, mainly Germany and Russia. Yet France and Great Britain afforded their new possessions little more self-determination than their previous Ottoman masters had. Moreover, Great Britain betrayed the Palestinians in order to redress wrongs done to the European Jews. From a non-European perspective, one could make the claim that Europe exported its ethnic problems overseas and created another. Unfortunately, the issue is neither out of sight or mind.

 

European populism and nationalism is not necessarily in the interests of Europe's Jews. Indeed, it is folly to assume that a surge in patriotic fervor can be directed against one particular minority i.e. Muslims. Nor is this quandary Jewish-centric. The Roma and other minorities can expect the heat to be turned up also. Lastly, despite the best efforts of Jewish and Christian Neoconservatives, Jews remain the "other".

I think there is nothing wrong with being "anti-Semitic" if the Jewish Semites want to replace Europeans with Arab Semites. The idea that anti-Semitism is the worst crime imaginable has obviously been pushed by the Jews themselves, and is another proof that they have too much influence over our society.

"Anti-Semitism is on the rise in Europe. This cannot be denied, although the media prefer to downplay one of its main causes: the Islamization of Europe"

It is true that the violence against Jews comes from muslim immigrants, not from European nationalists. That MacShane politician and his Newsweek friends are liars who are more interested in defaming white people than in telling the truth. In fact, the muslim gangs who attack buses are in Europe precisely because of malevolent people like MacShane and the Newsweek journalists. I think American neocons are particularly good at the game of blaming Europeans for the muslim violence against Jews, while calling for more muslim immigration to Europe.

What I disagree with in this article is the idea that nationalist parties should realize that "Israel is Europe’s front post in the war against Islamic radicalism". On the contrary, I think nationalist parties should expose the crucial role played by Jewish organizations in the policy of replacing whites with third-world immigrants. Overall, Jews are not our friends.

Today, it seems that the Jews are the measure of all things in the world. The Western media and institutions take a Jewish point of view, and we are asked to look at the world through Jewish eyes. Why are attacks and murders under-reported when the victims are white people, but over-reported when the victims are Jewish? I don't see any reason to focus on the harm done to Jews when most of the violence is obviously directed at non-Jews. The obvious explanation is that anti-European Jewish organizations play a dominant role in the media. How can we explain the anti-free-speech laws that forbid any criticism of Jewish accounts of WWII? The only explanation that makes sense is that those laws were voted under Jewish pressure. How come the media talk so much about Israel and Palestine? There is no reason why normal Europeans should be obsessed by things like Israel, Palestine, the Jews and the Holocaust. The simple explanation is that Jews are overrepresented in the media, and very often own the media. People who understand those facts should push their reasoning further and think of the Jewish role in the media propaganda for race-replacement. I think that role has been decisive. Fifty years ago, very few Europeans would have accepted the idea of replacing European children with African and Arab immigrants. There is nothing natural in Europeans suddenly deciding to be replaced by other races. (In fact, most Europeans still oppose immigration today). On the other hand, it is easy to find websites giving lists of mainly Jewish organizations active in the race-replacement propaganda, and in the intimidation of European dissenters.

So, it is absurd to criticize Europe's "media elites" for encouraging anti-Jewish feelings. Europe's "media elites" are largely Jewish or under Jewish influence, and are responsible for immigration and the violence of muslim immigrants, which is mainly directed at non-Jews.

MacShane: “As jobs are lost and welfare becomes meaner and leaner, the politics of blaming the outsider can only grow”

It must be a joke. The Jews are not outsiders at all. On the contrary, they are at the center of western institutions, media and political parties.

"The anti-Israeli propaganda, such as the al-Dura hoax, staged by the French state-owned television network France 2, is intended to stir anti-Jewish feelings among the population"

It is true that the french leftists like to take sides with the Palestinians against the Israeli government. But I suspect that support for the Palestinian cause comes mainly from Jewish journalists. There is no reason why Europeans should care about what happens in the Levant, except if they watch too much TV. But many journalists and influent politicians have part of their family in Israel. What is farcical is that some Europeans support the right of the Jews to have their own state, and other Europeans defend the right of the Palestinians to keep their ancestral lands, while the same Europeans are afraid to say that we have a right to keep Europe for ourselves. How can it be so? The explanation lies in Jewish dominance of our institutions.

Thank Paul Belien for sharing...
Just amazing how Europe is repeating History...
Shame .. shame ... shame..

This is so true ! Every time people talk about jews and israel (in a restaurant or pub or so) they always - and I mean ALWAYS - give me this anti-israel bias that turns into anti-semitism à la "without israel there would be less war in the world", "they should have given a piece of germany to the jews", "Israelis are oppressors" etc. The biggest root of all this is the continuous bias in our mainstream media, it's like brainwashing.

I think this is also a part of Eurabia: our intellectual level degrading to that of the arab world, the level of stupid thirdworld-people and their islamic culture of hate.