Hardened Attitude
From the desk of The Brussels Journal on Mon, 2007-08-20 16:19
A quote from The Financial Times, 20 August 2007
Only 59 per cent of Britons thought it possible to be both a Muslim and a citizen of their country, a smaller proportion than in France, Germany, Spain, Italy or the US - the other countries polled by Harris Interactive.
British citizens were also the most likely to predict a "major terrorist attack" in their country in the next 12 months; consider Muslims "a threat to national security", and believe Muslims had too much political power in their country. [...] The findings suggest that terrorist plots against the UK, including the London bombings of July 7 2005, have hardened British attitudes towards Muslims. [...]
France emerged as the country most at ease with its Muslim population. The French were most likely to say they had Muslim friends, to accept if their child wanted to marry a Muslim, and to say Muslims in their country had received unjustified criticism and prejudice.
Patrick Weil, political scientist at the University of Paris 1 Sorbonne, said: "In France we are very good at cultural integration. We are very bad in fighting discrimination, especially in high-level jobs. In the UK it is the opposite."
Immigration Manifesto
Submitted by Atlanticist911 on Thu, 2007-08-23 18:03.
Could the adoption of this Immigration Manifesto be the solution,the perfect compromise?
http://globalpolitician.com/articledes.asp?ID=3262&cid=3&sid=105
both a muslim and a frog
Submitted by Armor on Wed, 2007-08-22 04:10.
When the pollsters asked if it was possible to be "a Muslim" and "a Briton" at the same time, what they really meant was: can you be Arab and European at the same time. They did not mean: will you remain European if you convert to islam. The question was not about Cat Stevens, but about immigration: do you think immigrants are becoming Europeans even if they keep their muslim religion. The correct answer is that third world people do not become European even when they give up islam.
What makes us European is our European ancestry and our common history. Third-world immigrants do not share our ancestry, so they cannot be European, or British, or German. Besides, it is easy to observe that the children of immigrants do not behave as Europeans. This is because they are not Europeans. A good question the pollster could have asked is: Do you think we should send the immigrants back home? But they won't ask that kind of question because their poll is simply another piece of immigration propaganda.
If you think what makes us European is not our ancestry but our distinct culture, you cannot consider that muslims are culturally European either. Their crude religion is foreign to us. Besides, islam is used by immigrants as an identity marker. It means: we are not European.
Patrick Weil: "In France we are very good at cultural integration."
I would like an example of what he means by that. What does he think of the immigrants' children who dress in tracksuits and set fire to cars and public buildings? Is it a french tradition?
In france, the administration has been so good at destroying the popular culture of the whites that there isn't a culture left for immigrants to integrate into. What remains is the public institutions dominated by frauds like Patrick Weil. The ethnic cohesion is much stronger among immigrants than among Europeans. They can even receive Arab television programs from their home countries. And they are being allowed by the Paris government to extend the Arab local radios, while most Bretons can still not hear a word of Breton on the radio or on TV.
"France emerged as the
Submitted by Amsterdamsky on Tue, 2007-08-21 08:58.
"France emerged as the country most at ease with its Muslim population. The French were most likely to say they had Muslim friends, to accept if their child wanted to marry a Muslim, and to say Muslims in their country had received unjustified criticism and prejudice."
Because they mostly are muslim
Comments on "Hardened Attitude"
Submitted by Kapitein Andre on Tue, 2007-08-21 03:38.
FT: "Only 59 per cent of Britons thought it possible to be both a Muslim and a citizen of their country, a smaller proportion than in France, Germany, Spain, Italy or the US - the other countries polled by Harris Interactive."
I would be interested in knowing what the 59% were thinking, and what percentage were native (e.g. English, Welsh, Irish, Scottish) and which were foreign-derived; further breakdowns could show the religion and/or race of the respondents compared to their answers.
FT: "British citizens were also the most likely to predict a "major terrorist attack" in their country in the next 12 months; consider Muslims "a threat to national security", and believe Muslims had too much political power in their country. [...] The findings suggest that terrorist plots against the UK, including the London bombings of July 7 2005, have hardened British attitudes towards Muslims. [...]"
British citizens seem to be the best informed of all Westerners, despite the ravages of New Labour.
FT: "France emerged as the country most at ease with its Muslim population. The French were most likely to say they had Muslim friends, to accept if their child wanted to marry a Muslim, and to say Muslims in their country had received unjustified criticism and prejudice."
It sounds as though the respondents were Muslim. However, was it not the French that were defeated by and surrendered to the Wehrmacht and allowed hundreds of thousands of German soldiers to frequent French brothels and take up French girlfriends and fiancees? The French have also pandered to Arab terrorists, assorted rogue regimes and to the Warsaw Pact by withdrawing from NATO.
Apparently, the only reason that the Allies did not train assassins at Camp X to take out Hitler was because Allied planners considered him more of liability to the German war effort alive than dead. Similarly, it might be better for the West if France is on the "other team." Fortunately, Carolus Magnus' remains lie in Germany and not New North Africa.
FT: "Patrick Weil, political scientist at the University of Paris 1 Sorbonne, said: 'In France we are very good at cultural integration. We are very bad in fighting discrimination, especially in high-level jobs. In the UK it is the opposite.' "
I therefore wish the French the best of luck in fighting disrcrimination. I hope that Mr. Weil remains in France when it becomes a majorily Muslim and non-White country and does not attempt to flee to the United States, South America or Israel.
Attitudes
Submitted by Frank Lee on Mon, 2007-08-20 23:28.
Along with asking French Catholics how accepting they are of their children marrying a Muslim, the pollster should have asked French Muslims how accepting they are of their children -- especially their daughters -- marrying a Catholic. The double standards will proliferate until we put an end to them.
Cultural traits #2
Submitted by Atlanticist911 on Mon, 2007-08-20 22:37.
In the US,which has proportionally fewer Muslim inhabitants than France,Britain or Germany,21 per cent saw the presence of Muslims as a threat,while 20 per cent said Muslims had too much power.
The Financial Times.
Now read this: "How Terror Grows At Home".
http://www.benadorassociates.com/article/20978
Is there a lesson to be learned here,too?
Cultural traits
Submitted by Atlanticist911 on Mon, 2007-08-20 21:46.
Patrick Weil claims that:
France is very good at cultural integration and bad at fighting discrimination.
Britain is good at fighting discrimination and very bad at cultural integration.
He might also have noted that Muslim countries are very bad at cultural integration and fighting discrimination but fairly successful at retaining their cultural integrity.
Is there a lesson to be learned here?
cultural integration
Submitted by dimitrik on Mon, 2007-08-20 20:02.
Of course those youth riots are not because of lack of cultural integration. Vice versa, they are because France has integrated into Muslim culture successfully. Next will be creation of Palestinian State in Paris - after all France wanted to create it so much.