Kapitein Andre: "Interesting they support Zionism but not European nationalism..."
very interesting indeed. And if you look at the mexican invasion and the mass immigration caused by the 1965 law the only thing that's going to prevent americans from being reduced to a minority in their own country is a wave of american nationalism. But would the idiots at LGF support that? One would think that so-called patriots would realize that saving America is a million times more important than winning in Iraq or defeating the Talibans in Assghanistan
I like LGF and BJ and will continue to read both blogs. Trading insults and accusations with Charles Johnson can only help those who want to see us defeated and powerless. In my opinion, the less said about this rift the better.
In recent months,Iv'e been accused of anti semitism by Yitzhak for my support of Israel's right to exist,a zionist troll by Amsterdamsky for speaking out against his blatant anti semitism,while Armor seems to think I'm behind some devious plot to flood his beloved Brittany with hordes of french moroccans! Then this bloke Charles Johnson comes along and implies that I am some kind of crypto Nazi,and I am supposed to be surprised?
Submitted by Tim Spencer on Thu, 2007-11-01 13:37.
Just reading their members replies tells you all you need to know, it's full of lame one-liners, LGF is way out of order with it's criticisms of the B.J.
Looks like the moronic convergence of neocons at little green footballs is now complete. All Johnson has been doing is moaning about not winning some blog away, far more important than the Islamic threat.
LGF has always been Zionist and neocon, which didn't bother me until they started attacking European nationalists. As pointed out, if you are anything less than a rabid Zionist, you're a nasty racist bigot. Interesting they support Zionism but not European nationalism.........
Submitted by Paul Belien on Thu, 2007-11-01 17:12.
Well, Darrinh, I, too, have already been called a "racist," a "Zionist" and a "neocon." That is what the Left in Europe calls me. In America, however, some people call me a "neo-Nazi." Interestingly, the anti-Flemish, far-left website ResistanceS, which has become one of LGF's sources for its attacks on the VB, calls the Vlaams Belang "neocon" and "racist." However, the same website calls the Israeli politician Avigdor Lieberman a "racist" because he is a "Zionist." I stand for my opinions, which you can find on this website, and I do not care what stupid people call me. All these labels have become meaningless. We do, however, defend the right of Israel to safeguard its national interests and to protect the security of its citizens, and we also support the right of Europe's peoples to defend their national identities.
And, unlike Charles, we do not interfere in the comments people post here, how horrible these may be.
Paul it's the same in Australia. The rabid left call me a Neo-Nazi, the lunatic right call me a (Christian) Zionist. I even have my own leftist fanclubs (here , here and here). Apparently, being a nationalist is the same as being a nazi even though I'm not and have written about the subject, but leftists never let the facts get in the way I suppose.
I think people disapprove of "neocons" for 2 different reasons:
1) The far left says that neocons are real conservatives who believe in abolishing the welfare system and attacking Iraq (and maybe Iran).
That is probably why Paul Belien has been called a neocon --because he sees a problem with the welfare system as it is organized in Belgium.
2) We use the word neocon to refer to those individuals who pose as conservatives but support the mass introduction of non-whites into white societies. They like to use some anti-leftist rhetoric, they criticize the welfare system, but they remain mainly leftist.
How can you be a anti-islamism guru if you support mass immigration from muslim countries? --> You have to be a "neocon".
How can you become a anti-immigration leader if you favor mass immigration and say that opponents to mass immigration should be condemned as racists? --> You have to be a "neocon".
LGF is into neoconism, since it likes anti-leftist and anti-islamist rhetoric, but still condemns people who oppose immigration.
However, I would reserve the word neocon for people who are more duplicitous than stupid. Let's face it: most commentators at LGF are just stupid.
I too belong to both LGF and Brussels Journal. And this situation has me feeling very disappointed.
I do not think there needs to be a war of words between two sites that have been so valuable to the anti-Jihadi crowd. There are disagreements, some are probably even legitimate, but I think LGF has been excessive.
I saw Fjordman trying to defend himself constantly against a barrage of vicious, often nonsensical and repetitive, attacks at LGF. He was classy throughout all the abuse, much more so than many LGF members. Hat off to him for trying to salvage the situation. I wish someone on the LGF side had the same approach.
I guess this is where islamocentrism leads to
Submitted by kristof on Tue, 2007-11-06 22:50.
Kapitein Andre: "Interesting they support Zionism but not European nationalism..."
very interesting indeed. And if you look at the mexican invasion and the mass immigration caused by the 1965 law the only thing that's going to prevent americans from being reduced to a minority in their own country is a wave of american nationalism. But would the idiots at LGF support that? One would think that so-called patriots would realize that saving America is a million times more important than winning in Iraq or defeating the Talibans in Assghanistan
Interesting they support Zionism but not European nationalism...
Submitted by Kapitein Andre on Thu, 2007-11-01 16:32.
What did you expect? The two are in many respects anti-thetical so long as Zionist reside outside of Israel.
Pissing Match
Submitted by Arty on Thu, 2007-11-01 14:14.
I like LGF and BJ and will continue to read both blogs. Trading insults and accusations with Charles Johnson can only help those who want to see us defeated and powerless. In my opinion, the less said about this rift the better.
Recent history
Submitted by Atlanticist911 on Thu, 2007-11-01 13:44.
In recent months,Iv'e been accused of anti semitism by Yitzhak for my support of Israel's right to exist,a zionist troll by Amsterdamsky for speaking out against his blatant anti semitism,while Armor seems to think I'm behind some devious plot to flood his beloved Brittany with hordes of french moroccans! Then this bloke Charles Johnson comes along and implies that I am some kind of crypto Nazi,and I am supposed to be surprised?
Hey,Chas,join the queue!
Re LGF
Submitted by Tim Spencer on Thu, 2007-11-01 13:37.
Just reading their members replies tells you all you need to know, it's full of lame one-liners, LGF is way out of order with it's criticisms of the B.J.
Not really newsworthy, is it?
Submitted by HenrikRClausen on Thu, 2007-11-01 13:21.
Is it just me, or has Charles' opinions stopped being newsworthy? Deleting this post would improve the BJ signal/noise ratio :)
who needs them?
Submitted by darrinh on Thu, 2007-11-01 13:19.
Looks like the moronic convergence of neocons at little green footballs is now complete. All Johnson has been doing is moaning about not winning some blog away, far more important than the Islamic threat.
Convergence of neocon morons at LGF
Submitted by darrinh on Thu, 2007-11-01 13:44.
LGF has always been Zionist and neocon, which didn't bother me until they started attacking European nationalists. As pointed out, if you are anything less than a rabid Zionist, you're a nasty racist bigot. Interesting they support Zionism but not European nationalism.........
Zionist neocon neo-Nazi
Submitted by Paul Belien on Thu, 2007-11-01 17:12.
Well, Darrinh, I, too, have already been called a "racist," a "Zionist" and a "neocon." That is what the Left in Europe calls me. In America, however, some people call me a "neo-Nazi." Interestingly, the anti-Flemish, far-left website ResistanceS, which has become one of LGF's sources for its attacks on the VB, calls the Vlaams Belang "neocon" and "racist." However, the same website calls the Israeli politician Avigdor Lieberman a "racist" because he is a "Zionist." I stand for my opinions, which you can find on this website, and I do not care what stupid people call me. All these labels have become meaningless. We do, however, defend the right of Israel to safeguard its national interests and to protect the security of its citizens, and we also support the right of Europe's peoples to defend their national identities.
And, unlike Charles, we do not interfere in the comments people post here, how horrible these may be.
Neo-Nazi White supremacist Christian Zionist - thats me!
Submitted by darrinh on Thu, 2007-11-01 22:24.
Paul it's the same in Australia. The rabid left call me a Neo-Nazi, the lunatic right call me a (Christian) Zionist. I even have my own leftist fanclubs (here , here and here). Apparently, being a nationalist is the same as being a nazi even though I'm not and have written about the subject, but leftists never let the facts get in the way I suppose.
neoconism
Submitted by Armor on Thu, 2007-11-01 18:12.
I think people disapprove of "neocons" for 2 different reasons:
1) The far left says that neocons are real conservatives who believe in abolishing the welfare system and attacking Iraq (and maybe Iran).
That is probably why Paul Belien has been called a neocon --because he sees a problem with the welfare system as it is organized in Belgium.
2) We use the word neocon to refer to those individuals who pose as conservatives but support the mass introduction of non-whites into white societies. They like to use some anti-leftist rhetoric, they criticize the welfare system, but they remain mainly leftist.
How can you be a anti-islamism guru if you support mass immigration from muslim countries? --> You have to be a "neocon".
How can you become a anti-immigration leader if you favor mass immigration and say that opponents to mass immigration should be condemned as racists? --> You have to be a "neocon".
LGF is into neoconism, since it likes anti-leftist and anti-islamist rhetoric, but still condemns people who oppose immigration.
However, I would reserve the word neocon for people who are more duplicitous than stupid. Let's face it: most commentators at LGF are just stupid.
A sad state. I agree with ArtY
Submitted by lmhough1 on Thu, 2007-11-01 19:02.
I too belong to both LGF and Brussels Journal. And this situation has me feeling very disappointed.
I do not think there needs to be a war of words between two sites that have been so valuable to the anti-Jihadi crowd. There are disagreements, some are probably even legitimate, but I think LGF has been excessive.
I saw Fjordman trying to defend himself constantly against a barrage of vicious, often nonsensical and repetitive, attacks at LGF. He was classy throughout all the abuse, much more so than many LGF members. Hat off to him for trying to salvage the situation. I wish someone on the LGF side had the same approach.