France (b. Verdun, August 843 – d. Versailles, February 2008), RIP
From the desk of Tiberge on Mon, 2008-02-04 22:26
Today, France’s deputies and senators meeting in Parliament in Versailles ratified by a vote of 560 to 181 the constitutional revision that precedes the ratification of the Treaty of Lisbon. The result of this voting opens the way for the final ratification, Thursday, first at the National Assembly, then the Senate. Out of 893 present, 741 voted.
France is the 5th country after Hungary, Slovenia, Romania and Malta to ratify the Lisbon Treaty, in which they sign their sovereignty away.
Oh come on!
Submitted by Anonymous Infidel on Tue, 2008-02-05 20:52.
There has to be a way to reverse this EU nonsense! I'll admit, with their non-help (sometimes outright sabotage) on our
efforts in Iraq, I thought "Let the bastards burn for all I care!"
But that's in the past and not important now.
What is important is preventing the Iron Curtain from descending once again, and ultimately, preventing Europe from being the Empire of Islam's newest addition.
France, Adieu
Submitted by BollekeBoy on Tue, 2008-02-05 17:10.
Unlike many posters here, I am actually fond of France. I thoroughly enjoyed the time I have spent there. It is a country with a wonderful culture. Unfortunately the French tendency toward socialism, which I think was largely responsible for the people voting non on the EU constitution, was ultimately responsible for the death of their country. This may only be the beginning of the end for France. Whatever you think of the Fifth Republic, it is far more deirable than the Islamic Republic of France that looms on the horizon.
@ Schaveiger
Submitted by BollekeBoy on Tue, 2008-02-05 17:00.
In many ways individual states in the US exercise greater sovereignty from Washington than France does from Brussels. That is the beauty of the US Constitution which emphasizes state and individual rights instead of centralized government. I was issued a pocket guide to the US Constitution in the military, and it does easily fit into your pocket. Good luck finding a pocket guide to the EU constitution or its bastard child, the Treaty of Lisbon. It would never fit into anybody's pocket.
@ BollekeBoy
Submitted by Schaveiger on Tue, 2008-02-05 17:18.
Really ?
I relay on your writing but do you know a Constitution of any European country who fits in the pocket ?
Maybe an Asian one, the Chinese red book ;)
@Schaveiger
Submitted by onecent on Tue, 2008-02-05 19:56.
The proposed EU constitution is the size of a major city phone book. That's hardly a citizen friendly document. It's bloated with bureaucratic garbage of no value to anyone except to obstruct the clarity and ease of even knowing your rights.
The enduring beauty of the US Constitution besides the wording is its brevity, that we actually know what's in it.
Ireland, if memory serves me right, has a constitution that is a reasonable size.
@ onecent
Submitted by Schaveiger on Wed, 2008-02-06 13:14.
The EU constitution is a compilation of over 20 EU-members constitutions and is far more exhaustive than the US one, so no wonder that it has the size of a phone book.
I agree with you that it's merely juridical jargon for initiates but that's the way it works here.
What do you call a "reasonable" size, half a phone book ?
The sovereignty illusion
Submitted by Schaveiger on Tue, 2008-02-05 12:13.
Somebody wanting to join a club has to comply with the club's regulations. Therefore no one in the world can claim for sovereignty because tributary to the UNO, NATO, IMF, WHO, WTO etc. etc.
How sovereign are Texas, New York and all other states towards the US ?
Sovereignty in today's world is nothing more than an illusion.
France as a parasite
Submitted by Amsterdamsky on Tue, 2008-02-05 12:09.
Another commenter here had it pretty spot on. France thinks it can control the EU along with Germany. France really is a cancer. The Allies really should have left it as a German territory.
843?
Submitted by letthefrogscroak on Tue, 2008-02-05 10:50.
843 cannot be the date of birth of the current French state. The Fifth French Republic was born in 1958 with new borders and a new constitution. Is it now on death row? Yes, because the sovereignty of its institutions is a defining character of a Republic. The French Republic has been moribund for years and it will be completely dead in 2009 in all but name.
Now most EU institutions are headquartered in French-speaking places, viz. Brussels, Luxembourg, Strassburg, so the French can be expected to remain as powerful as ever to harm us Europeans, even though I guess such power will not be enough to prevent further decline of the French language and culture throughout Europe. The fact that the EU's capital cities are mostly French-speaking is unlikely to help French become the capital language of the EU, even allowing for ever increasing centralization of power. The world will just be too busy learning English at least for the next few decades, and even the French will have to learn it. Tough luck, Froggie!
exagerated report
Submitted by Armor on Tue, 2008-02-05 01:34.
I wish we could say good riddance, but I'm afraid France is not completely dead. It is still making a nuisance of itself in Brittany, Corsica, Alsace, Tahiti, etc.
Besides, France did not exist yet in 843.
" they deserve to be permanent serfs on the EU plantation."
It's no worse than being serfs on the froggy plantation.
Will Brown follow suit?
Submitted by onecent on Mon, 2008-02-04 23:18.
I'm wondering if he has the guts. I'm sure he and his party are sniffing the air on this developement trying to figure out how they can pull off the same thing.
Well, if what follows from the French electorate, infamous for taking their displeasure to the streets, is nothing but a sigh and silence, then, they deserve to be permanent serfs on the EU plantation.