Amsterdam: The War Over a Cross. Who Wins?
From the desk of Paul Belien on Mon, 2006-03-13 13:59
The Amsterdam authorities have announced that a large cross, which was removed from in front of a supermosque that is currently being built in a western suburb of the city, will be put back in its original place once the construction works are over in a few years’ time.
Last week we reported on the decision of the Amsterdam borough of De Baarsjes to permanently remove the white cross which served as a memorial to the Second World War. The cross, with the inscription “Aan hen die vielen” (To those who fell), was situated in front of a place where a huge mosque – the Westermoskee – is currently being built. The cross was removed for the building works, but the authorities decided they would not put it back afterwards and would replace it by a “neutral” memorial, at the price of 50,000 euro.
According to the authorities the cross was offensive to the Muslim and Jewish communities, who had objected to the cross as a war memorial. “The cross is seen as a reference to Christianity. I can understand this,” the local (Christian-Democrat) councillor, Jan Voetberg, said.
However, news of the decision led to an outcry, which prompted the local council to renege on its decision. The local council was swamped with protests from all across the country. While the Pakistani, Moroccan and Turkish communities had, indeed, asked for the removal of the memorial, the Jewish community said it had never objected to the cross. On the contrary. Bloeme Evers, an Auschwitz survivor, said he was shocked by the demand. Three years ago a war remembrance ceremony at the memorial was disrupted by Moroccan youths shouting anti-Jewish slogans.
“We have made an error of judgement and apparently touched an open nerve,” Jan Voetberg said about the decision of the council’s change of mind. Last Friday the council announced that the cross will be returned to its original position “in a few years time,” once the construction of the mosque is completed.
Considering that it is probably intolerable for a Muslim to have a huge white cross in front of a mosque (at least as intolerable as a paper that publishes a drawing of Muhammad) we are curious to see whether the Amsterdam cross will indeed return – and if so – for how long.
Brussels statue of Godfrey de Bouillon
Submitted by sobrien140 on Wed, 2006-03-15 13:51.
As for Brussels, how long will it be before they demand removal of the statue of Godfrey de Bouillon in the Place Royale? Or perhaps they will simply destroy it one dark night. One history of this Crusader is at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godfrey_de_Bouillon
People Power
Submitted by truth serum on Tue, 2006-03-14 16:31.
“We have made an error of judgement and apparently touched an open nerve,” Jan Voetberg said about the decision of the council’s change of mind. Last Friday the council announced that the cross will be returned to its original position “in a few years time,” once the construction of the mosque is completed
It does remain to be seen whether the cross will be returned, however, the bigger picture here is that the politicians responded to the people wishes once they had the courage to voice them. The power is with the people, always has been, always will be. For all the things Muslims have not adapted to in Western society, people power is one that they have taken to heart and using it to its fullest....ironic, isn't it?
The trouble in the Western
Submitted by Nerine Bouaoun on Tue, 2006-03-14 03:13.
The trouble in the Western world with Islam and Muslims reminds me of the childrens' book, "If You Give A Mouse A Cookie." As a take-off on this book, "if you give a Muslim a visa...." etc. etc. They'll want to build a mosque, out-breed your native citizens, scream about every make-believe "injustice," demand your monuments, schools, social services, movies, newspapers, etc, etc, etc, bow to their wishes. If you haven't read "If You Give A Mouse A Cookie," read it and see the darker picture!
Remember Nelson's Pillar
Submitted by Elaib on Mon, 2006-03-13 16:19.
When in 1966 Irish republican's blew up the monument to Lord Nelson that had been built in O'Connoll street in the centre of Dublin in 1808 the authorities promised that it would be rebuilt. Today the poor people of Dublin will have to make do with "a replacement for Nelson's Column to add a vertical emphasis to the street".
Tell them today
Submitted by Defender on Mon, 2006-03-13 15:47.
“The Pakistani, Moroccan and Turkish communities had, indeed, asked for the removal of the memorial…..”
“Three years ago a war remembrance ceremony at the memorial was disrupted by Moroccan youths shouting anti-Jewish slogans.”
What does it take before the Muslim immigration friendly politicians and people realise that the Muslims want to take over the country, just look at their behaviour, first they start building mosques and then they want anything Muslims might find offensive out of the area, it is only a matter of time before this thing they want removed are us infidels.
Wake up, for crying out loud!! If they find the war memorial so offensive, then why build their mosque near it? If they find our way of life so disturbing, then what are they doing here? They say they want respect for their culture, but how much respect do they have for you and your country’s history when they disturb a war remembrance ceremony and then ask for the memorial to be removed?
Wake up before it is too late!! Say NO to the building of anymore mosques, say NO to Muslim demands of us submitting to their beliefs.
Tell the Muslims they can adapt or get out.
Tell them today
Re: Tell Them Today! Aalbert-Johannes
Submitted by A New Believer on Tue, 2006-03-14 00:40.
Yes, Defender I will tell them today!
This is for Aalbert-Johannes, a fine Nederlander!
"Operation Market Garden was an Allied military operation in World War II, which took place in September of 1944. It was an attempt to take bridges over the main rivers of the German-occupied Netherlands, enabling the Allies to advance into Germany without any remaining major obstacles.
The operation was successful up to the capture of the Rhine bridge at Nijmegen, but is generally considered a failure as the final bridge at Arnhem was not held, resulting in the destruction of the British 1st Airborne division."
Aalbert-Johannes would have been 83
years old today, but he cannot be with us.
So that the "muslims of Das Baarjtes neighborhood in Amsterdam could build
a mosque and remove the memorial that he and other Dutchmen, Americans as well as
British soldiers and resistance fighters
could secure bridges into nazi occupied Nederlands! How proud he would be a 21 year old young man who gave up children, a family, life, a trade and could have hidden away trembling and perhaps made himself happy doing so. It was not enough for him, he needed to be a
Nederlander! Today would have been his 83rd birthday! Iam
sorry that there will be one less remembrance for such a noble hero! The best kind of hero, a man who did not ask what needed to be done. He simply did it! I ask that we remember him
since obviously others cannot!
Thank You!
Odin be Praised! Baldur Save Us!