I don't see hate against human beings but against an ideology of hatred...
That's a big difference!
Where did you see christians or westerners slaughtering muzzies in the FREE WORLD.

We,in the free world founded on JUDEO-CHRISTIANISM and greek philosophy and REASON,love FREEDOM and then free speech...

That's all moud !
Fighting hatred is not hatred don't be confuse.
Crusades were fully justified...
Stop whining and start thinking

In western europe we can find very good danish savage Salmon

 I would, if I could find their products.....About the only thing Danish that I can think of that is imported into the USA is Carlsburg Beer, which I hate to say, is pretty bad!......Give me some other ideas!....I am willing to support this small nation that has has taken a stand for it's culture and values!.....Viva Denmark!!!......

To Mr Arabian Knight. How nice of you to use a Christian concept as a name. Even nicer since it was Crusader and Frankish knights who tried to reclaim the Holy Land from islam after the muslims invaded Judea and slaughtered whole towns for being non-islamic.

And to anyone posting here...please, PLEASE, learn to use punctuation. They make reading rants, especially anti-Western, anti-Christian, anti-Jewish, anti-free speech rants so much easier to see and for European-friendly people to prepare our responses.

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Defend Christendom. Defend Jewry. Oppose socialism in Europe.

Good day to you all jurks insulting eachother,,
why is this anger? easy boys and girls,, cool down,, think about it,,they insult your pophet, insult theirs,, see,,very easy,,they call you Muslims names,, call them names,, you are all sick in your brains, stupid, and you all really need a shrink that even more sick than you all are,,
The world is full of hetred and Predigest Thanks to you all,, go find yourselves somthing decent fruitful to do instead of teaching all this hate.
You all go to hell

I can't believe, what the Muslims partly are thinking. They feel offended by the cartoons is understandable, but not, that some of them want us to feel like them or even to behave like them. They live in our countries and we not in their countriey. So if they don't like it in Europe, they should go home.

The only one who deny the Holocaust, is the muslim terror regime in Iran.

Since many artist, political actives and judes died under ww2, because of the Nazi's - and Austrias special relations to germany under ww2, is a deniel of the holocaust a crime in austria.

Publishing 12 cartoons of muhammed cannot be compared to the deaths of several millions innocent people under ww2.

As we say in Denmark, "the road to hell is full of excuses".

In Iran Imams are denying the Holocaust - here in Denmark - we used to Imans who tell lies all the time. Since Denmark saved of judes, artists, political active under ww2, by bringing the to sweden - we know what Holocaust is about.

When it comes to the Holocaust... there's no freedom of speech either...
Now..What makes you so different from the muslims defending their prophet ???

Something to think about...

Holocaust Denier Gets Three Years in Jail
VIENNA, Austria - Right-wing British historian David Irving pleaded guilty Monday to denying the Holocaust and was sentenced to three years in prison, even after conceding he wrongly said there were no Nazi gas chambers at the Auschwitz concentration camp.

Irving was arrested Nov. 11 in the southern Austrian province of Styria on a warrant issued in 1989. He was charged under a federal law that makes it a crime to publicly diminish, deny or justify the Holocaust.

Lilly

everyone is insulting my religion my prophit and saying the worst and i can not NOT NOT NOT say nothing why??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
what about freedom of press or you are only seeing my comments why do not see other comments you see what you want that is the problem these people can make dirty joke ohhyeahah they are the funniest people on earth the dan...sure and i repeat i am agianst the burning and killing look to all my comments i said yes filthy jew chrsitiann budist but never kill or did you saw me with a torch lighting up this page....terorizing you guys that you have to wear bullet proof vest while writing please grow up and see with both eyes....look to other comments also see what they are saying about my prophit and religion and that is the problem of the west that is opression even i am not allawed to say nothing will be slam with a big slogan the radical bashar if it so i am the proudest radical guy you ever saw in my writting

You can call people what you like, but that doesent mean your right.
Calling somebody a Phedofile = meaning somebody who has sex with underage children and calling them "filthy jews" is not really a way to argue anything nor showing a point of view. That just below anything.
As for why we are not telling the editors of Jyllands Posten our point of view ... well, trust me, that has been done by a lot of people.
But again, Bashar, there is little we can do except not buy the newspaper and maybe they go broke.
But Im not going to burn down their building, calling in bomb threats or beating them up becuase that is just not our way. He could for that matter draw an insulting picture of my mother and farther and I would still call them idots, but not burn down anything or theat their lives.
And btw, what you have done the past 4-5 comments with insulting our relegion or calling people "filthy jews" ... I thought that was excately what "Muslims" dident do ... oh yes, they have respect for other religions.
Guess not.

dear sir i am burning you with my comments only i do not burn religion symbol why you do not say that to the editors of the newspaper he is ok he white europpean nice fellow can say a lot of thinks why he is ok and us not allow to show or express our point of view also it is a funny way remember dan they are teh most funniest people we also are.....that is our way...and yes jew becuase i have a lot of friend busniess people i deal with jew they them self say so.....they do not marry easaly if you are not jew.....ask and see...waiting for mor coments of you

I think you need to lay off the hash, its getting the best of you. Next you'll be telling us there are virgins waiting for you after your death. (oh wait, I've heard that before-sorry)

I think you need to lay off the hash, its getting the best of you. Next you'll be telling us there are virgins waiting for you after your death. (oh wait, I've heard that before-sorry)

Your submission was well and nicely written but I do think you miss a vital point regarding freedom of speech.
As you may have seen in my prior post, I think it was pointless and lack of taste to publish the drawings, but basically it is beside the point what I think or for that matter what our government or prime minister thinks.
In our society they, being the newspaper, have the right to do so.
They could and properly would print a cartoon of the holocaust or the “Zionists” if they thought there was a point to do so at any given time.
Properly many would be upset but I could NEVER imagine this reaction with threats on human life, damage of property and this sort of violence…. NEVER !
I have seen many cartoons in Denmark making fun of our God, Jesus, Jews, Buddha, our Prime Minister (for that matter there are 10 of him each day), our Queen, Princes or what ever.

That is where the whole difference lays.
Whenever “you” … not you personally I hope, but a lot (not all) of Muslims see this the wrong way and you simply don’t get “our way”.
So somebody insulted you, so somebody made fun of your religion ….. so what ?

Call them a bastard and don’t buy Jyllands Posten.

But you instead “you” want to take it out on a lot of other people and your reaction just make it that more of a “good story” and make many other papers re-print them and there you go… you have an International incident.

I really don’t care about your religion, truly I don’t !
I truly don’t care about a lot of religions …. I have my own.
And if you make a carton of Christ … I would properly think to myself, you ignorant bastard and go have a kebab, because hey … the Kebab shop owner didn’t make the drawing and he makes great food.

And Bashar … dawn, I’m sorry to say to …. But you got to be a stupid SOB and you may represent some people (properly the ones burning houses and blowing them self up), but luckily you don’t represent majority of Muslims.
Alone your strange comments of Jews make you “The Ignorant of this message board”.
Get a life and don’t blame all Jews for what some does …. Exactly what we are “TRYING” not do here …. Blame all Muslims for who ever burn and kills.
And btw .. There are Jews marrying black people, just like there Caucasians marrying Arabs and Eskimos marrying Indians.
Get a passport and crawl out of your cave.

Mr. Arabian Knight …. I must laugh.
All I have ever seen you do is blow up and kill innocent people that were not part of any conflict or was not ready for your attack.
That is what I call a Sissy Knight.
You personally, would properly crawl away of you had to face anybody that was ready for you.
You are a shame for your religion and your people !

DEAR FRIEND I CHALLENGE YOU TO DO DRWAING ABOT THE JEWISH BELIEVE ABOUT HOW AN RABBY IS A GUY WITH A WHORE WIFE DO THESE PICTURES AND THEN YOU WILL SEE YOU WILL BE OUT I AM CHALLENGING YOU BIG BOSS SHOW ME HOW STRING YOU ARE THE JEW THEY EVEN STOPPED THE NORWEGIAN TO BOYCOTT THE ISRAEL PRODCUTS BY FORCE AND NONE OF YOU EUROPPEAN DICKY DICK SAID NOTHING THE MAIR OF THAT NORWEGIAN STATE DID APPOLOGIZE FOR THE AMERICAN ADMINISTRATION AND DID STOP THE CAMPAINGN DO THAT AND YOU WILL SEEEEEEEEEEE. ASSHOLE

TEH PEDOPHILE IS YOUR DAD...AND IN THE JEWISH BELIEVE THE JEW ORTODOX WOMEN HAS NO WRITE TO CHOOSE HER MATE WHEN HAVING HER PERIOD HAS TO STAY OUTSIDE THE ROOM AND THEN AFTER HER PERIOD HAVE TO BATH IN A BIG POOL AND CAN NOT HAVE SEX WITH HER MATE UNTIL SEVEN DAY FROM THE PERIOD OFF...AND WEAR VIEL ONLY TO COOCK AT HOME..THAT IS ALSO IN WESTREN STANDARD OPRESSION FOR WOMEN RIGHT OHH YEAHHH JEW GOD;S PEOPLE THEY CAN DO WHAT THEY WANT THESE PEDOPHILE JEWS LIKE YOUR DAD JEWS CAN NOT MARRY BUT JEWS IN ISLAM WE CAN JEWS DO NOT MARRY BLACK PEOPLE DID YOU SAW ANY JEW MARRIED TO A BLACK WOMAN OR VICE VIRSA ISNT THAT SEGRAGATION OR DISCRIMINATION OHHH YEHHHH IT IS OK FOR YOU JEW PEDOPHILE CAN DO WHAT THEY WANT...I THINK HITLER DID SO BAD WITH YOUR OWN KIND THAT YOU ARE DOING THE SAME WITH THE PALESTINIAN DO NOT PICK ON A WOMAN LIKE NERMIN BECAUSE SHE IS ALWAYS SAYING THINKS IN A NICE MANNER BUT YEAHAHH FILTHY JEW THEY CAN PICK ON WOMAN THEY HAVE THE FUCKING RIGHT THEY THE PEDOPHILE LIKE YOUR HAGAMS ASSHOLE GO CLEAN THAT WAILING WLL IT SUCK,,,,,,,,,,,

jesus can not do nothing in judgment day he is so fuck up on the cross he can not move but our prophet might help you..

god blessed his heart did whipp of some filthy jew wish did wype you also truth serum this guy came for a reason whipe some asshole like your own kind hiel hitler

here is what is saying in coran that allah means god and his angles pray on mohamed o believers pray and say piece on the prophit even mighty god pray peace on him....but as you do not believe thisas a sura he is the most respectfull prophit and dear to our heart that is whay you can not make fun about him or other religion symbol why you do not protest the jew they obliged the norwegian to stop their boycot for the jewish products condaliza rice warned the norwigian to stop and they did....why not protest the american and make fun of them and make this unity bulshit

Where is it in the Quran that says Muhammed may not be depicted in a picture. I dare you to find such a verse. It doesn't exist. The Caliphs came up with the rule - not Mohammed - not Allah.

Meanwhile, you are threatening to slaughter all of us who support free expression.

Maybe we are all getting a better sense of what "bring it on" meant.

Bring it on you ignorant fool.

the burning of the flags was just the right thing to do .. look if i do sumthing about christian's cross like putting a naked lady up there wont this spark anger among the christians?? the same thing this reporters did it was very unprofessional and its like provoking war , and after doing all this you appologise and go looking for security? so i dont see anything wrong in burning flags , you make us angry u face the consequenses.

hope your jesus will help you on judgement day...

In honor of the Danes, I am going to buy as much Tuborg as I can lay my hands on!

http://buyrigsdansk.blogspot.com/

I ADVICE TO THOSE WHO TALK DIRTY ABOUT US OR THINK DIRTY ABOUT US.

KNIGHTS ARE GETTING READY .......KNIGHTS ARE GETTING READY

THEY WILL COME TO YOU AND FIGHT.

THEY WILL CHOSE THE DAY

THEY WILL CHOSE THE TIME

THEY WILL FIGHT ON YOUR LAND

PREPARE YOUR SELF

FASTERN THE SAFTY BELT

ARABIAN KNIGHTS

I Dare You .. What U Have Said.. Just Try To Speak Out Same Word In Front Of Any Muslim.. . I Swear By God... U Will Be Killed....U Know What I Mean.... Better.. Keep Silent.. .. Think Before U Say Something.... Warning.. To U.....One Muslim Is Enough For 20 Non Muslims....

Arabian Knight

dear valued danish friend i will support by not buying anymore your products is that ok

tell me is that ok???????????

Go to http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/freespeech1
to sign a petition supporting Denmark.

your words are wise . we must build bridages instead of building hate and conflicts....everyone by little effort can live in peace with the other

Thanks to the Egyptian reporter who shared his view on the Danish cartoon issue. Yes to freedom of speech,however; first, yes to civility. We are in much pain in our world. Religion, again, has become the epicenter of earth-shaking events. Every human, religion, country must step forward and join hands in an effort for world peace. We must be open to dialogue. We must have restraint in our behavior to the extent that we further an agenda of joint discussions and communication. PEACE TO THE WORLD. PEACE TO EVERY HUMAN ON EARTH. RESTRAINT IS THE DIRECTION WE MUST TAKE. ONE FOR ALL AND ALL FOR ONE.

Ashraf Yaseen:

We in this forum have already had another Muslim trying to convert (revert) everyone to the Islamic faith.

You both have followed the same pattern.

1. Islam is great.
2. Islam does not mock anybody and is very tolerant
3. Some Muslims are bad Muslims and not following the Koran properly.
4. Mohammmed was a great prophet.
5. Just read the Koran and you will understand.

I have read your Koran and was appalled at just how intolerant it is towards everyone who is not a Muslim. For Mohammed, you were a believer or a non-believer. If you were a Christian or a Jew (people of the book) you had a little bit better status than others...but you were never ever as good as a Muslim.

Sura 9:5 Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the unbelievers wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

or...

Sura 9:30 And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah, and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah. That is their saying with their mouths. They imitate the saying of those who disbelieved of old. Allah (Himself) fighteth against them. How perverse are they

No, it is not out of context. It means what it says. Many Muslims including some Palentinians have recently expressed that they want to impose the jiza(poor due) on the Christians living there.

Yes, I believe there are some good Muslims and very certainly some bad Muslims...how can I tell the difference when I know they all read from the same Koran?

As I understand it, and please correct me if I am wrong, but images of Mohammed are not allowed so that he will not be whorshipped. If that is then true...why does every good Muslim want to be like him? You speak of Mohammed in the same tone Christians speak of Jesus...and they whorship him.

Let me explain free speech to you...you CAN mock, you CAN preach hate, you CAN say anything you like as long as you don't cross that line of inciting or instructing one to hurt, maim or kill. If a society is good they will ignore the hate speech and shun the one speaking it. If they are not, they will follow him.

You SHOULD be able to question the Holocost if you want to without fear of being thrown in jail or attacked. The West is criticizing the Iranian president for doing so, (because it did happen) but will not attack him for that unless he crosses that line I mentioned before and starts killing people.

As I understand it...Muslims believe that Israel/Jews uses the Holocost to gain sympathy from the rest of the world. That may be true, but don't the Muslims use the Crusades in the same way? They are always reminding the Europeans to feel guilty for that era(They should not feel that way, by the way)

Imans preach hate every Friday against the Jews and against the Americans. I suppose this Friday they will preach hate about the Europeans, with special emphasis on the Danish.

I have seen it and I have read it on many occasions here:

http://www.memri.org/ and
http://www.memritv.org/

As Muslims wish to convert everyone (not a real problem with me actually) I would like to in turn give every Muslim a chance to leave his/her faith. You can start here:

http://www.faithfreedom.org/

For all you Infidels out there who truely want to understand the Islamic faith, please educate yourself here:

http://www.jihadwatch.org/

Hello everybody, thank you for this free discussion, and I appreciate if you accept my comments below.

I am Muslim, and I am proud to be, I am not irritating anybody here, but I am really proud and happy since I understand Islam very well and in the proper way.

I feel sorry for what the Danish cartoonist did by mocking against our Great Prophet, peace be upon him, and I want to clarify hereunder the reasons behind this entire crisis.
The points that I am going to talk about today are:
1) The causes for the often idea-conflict between Muslims and Europeans, and the answer to them.
2) Quran does not mock against Jews.
3) The western free of speech concept and its biasness.
4) Islam & democracy.

1) The root causes of all of these conflicts happen from time to time between Muslims, and European-Christians, can be summarized in two points:

A) The Europeans have an incorrect perception and distorted image about Islam and our Great Prophet Mohammad, peace be upon him.
B) The Europeans always mix between the relation between the Muslims & Jews and the fight against the Zionist invasion and occupation of Palestinian lands.

The only one blamed as being the reason for the first point are the Muslims themselves, because they do not really reflect the real image of Islam and they practice Islam improperly. Also, there are some suspicious minorities who do evil practices under the name of Islam.

I agree that we do not sell Islam very well, we do not have useful resources about Islam for Non-Muslims, and we do not utilize media properly, I feel sorry about that, but really our Islam is really very great, and I urge you to read more about Islam from unbiased point of views.
I suggest:
1) http://www.masud.co.uk/ISLAM/nuh/default.htm
2) http://www.islamicity.com/mosque/Intro_Islam.htm

Regarding the second point about the mix between Zionists and Jews, I’d to like to clarify as follows:

We do no fight Zionists because they are Jews, but because they invaded and occupied our lands, and committed massacres against our people, just as Algerians did against France, and just as Austria did against Germany. We just defend our land that has been given to Zionists by British government 1948 based on Balfour's Promise 1917 ( http://www.raceandhistory.com/worldhotspots/Israel.htm ).

Muslims are not the only enemy of Zionists, also Arab Christians, and some real Jews that we really respect them, and we have no problem at all with them, please visit these links:

1) http://www.nkusa.org/
2) www.jewsnotzionists.org/

These are samples only and there are a lot, just try to search.

2) Regarding the movie above, Quran doesn't mock against Jews or even Christians, or even abuse them, but Quran states some historical facts about some parts of people who disobeyed the Great Prophet David, Peace Be upon Him. and God punished them by transforming them into apes and pigs, these people were

"Say, shall I tell you of recompense with God worse than that? __ Whom God cursed, and on whom He was wroth, and whom He made apes and swine, and who served the idols (Taghut)? Those are the ones worst-placed and furthest astray from the even way."(Quran: 5-60)

So He is talking about the people who disobeyed David and served idols instead of God, so they were deniers, they were not even Jews, since Judaism started with the Great Prophet Moses, Peace Be upon Him, who was after the Great Prophet David, Peace Be upon Him.

3) The western free of speech concept: your concept free of speech has been developed by some philosophers based on democracy philosophy, the concept could be wonderful if it was objective and unbiased concept, but unfortunately it is not.
Mocking against Muhammad, Peace Be upon Him is permitted, but questioning holocaust is prohibited and a severe crime, isn’t it. Could the Danish cartoonist do a cartoon about the holocaust, or against Zionists? The Muslim philosopher Roger Garaudy was convicted and charged in the country of freedom for similar reason, please read:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Garaudy

So there are some people that has a protection against mocking, and questioning???? So does this system objective???
Is this free of speech???

4) Islam & democracy: some people above wrote that Islam does not meet with democracy, and here I do agree, however, I do not consider this as an insult to Islam, because Islam has a better system than democracy that it is more fair and effective as well. For instance, if you ask a company like G.E. to implement a well known system such as ISO system, I think this will be considered an insult to them.
By the way, questioning democracy and your free of speech concepts are aggressively refused by you, in a way that contradicts with the basics of democracy and free of speech.

I hope if you accept my opinion without feeling offended.

Best Regards,

Ashraf Yaseen

Thankyou for supporting us in this difficult time...like we´ve supported americans before..
But do please not expect all of us to share your political conservative beliefs just because you support us..
you would really support us more if you told the fundamental muslims off, and tried to influence the worlds biggest fascist countries to give up their boycutts.

I DK there´s recently been an ongoing debate about boycutting our locals pizzarias and vegetable dealers..(who, mostly, are foreign muslims)
That is not the way forward. The way forward is defending our right of free speech, tolerance, patience by debate and diplomatic tools.
The way forward isn´t to make campaign after campaign in the name of Boycutting "Buy danish" and drawings in other newspapers

(Btw; the foreign newspapers all forgot to pay and ask the drawers for permission, and the newspapers sold more than normal...is that solidarity or pure profit?)< Just a thought for ya´ll..

So stop campaigning and work the political world instead...if you please

Frengerine> you aren´t anymore danish than you are muslims!

Actually, Islamic nations do export more than just oil; I bought some pestachio nuts the other day and they're apparently from Iran. That's not bad; 1,500 years of slavish devotion to Allah, and the Islamic world's greatest achievement to date is the sale of packets of nuts. It's not quite up there with the development of space travel, walking on the moon, commercial jetliners, microprocessors, the Internet, CDs, DVDs, video tape, radio, television, communication satellites, vaccines, the internal combustion engine, safety-matches, heart pacemakers or, well, any technological achievement you can mention, but never mind, I'm sure that in three or four hundred years from now they'll invent something to export. Perhaps a new type of dishcloth. I guess it's just sooo hard to sit down and create things when you're constantly bleating and whining and wailing and waving your fists in the air, burning flags & blaming every one else for your own failings. (I didn't list the exports of Heroin and terrorism as I don't quite classify them as achievements that add value to human existence).

Nermin:

In answer to your question....

"ben laden is even stripped from his saudi nationality by his country...what do you want more than that...."

What I want more is to see him DEAD! My computer sits in room with Bin Laden's picture on the wall...his face is in the cross hairs of a rifle.

If you had any sense what so ever, you would see that he is using you and all the other Muslims in the world for his own selfish asperations against the West. He is certainly willing to sacrifice your life but what about his own?

I hate him not only because he has inspired Muslims to kill innocent people (including Muslims), but because he has made me suspicious of every single Muslim that walks down the street. I hate feeling this way! I used to admire the Muslim culture and its people, but now because of people like you who openly admire his hatred of the West and his desire to murder anybody who gets in his way of becoming the Grand Calif.

How many hundereds of years are you going to go back? In case no one told you....the Crusades are OVER! I want that same right as you. I demand that Muslims give the Christians back the land that Muslims stole from them! Palestine belonged to them before it belonged to the Muslims. Do you not see the insanity of that argument?

Get over it...quit blaming the West, Europe, and Israel for all your problems. Move on and make something of yourself and whatever country you live in...even if it is Palestine! Your children should be going to school learning how to become scientists and not how many damn bombs they need to fit around their stomachs in order to kill as many innocent people as they can while sipping coffee at a corner cafe!

I'm piss on all muslim, and if europe won't wake up we will lose. WE HAVE TO FIGHT with this religion,

what i say is that if you have chosen certain style and way in life donot impose it to the rest of poeple

Bob Doney

Not to mention the muslim, who chose not to make drawing of their prophets, and are now imposing that way of life to the rest of people.
You don't get it nermin, you just said exactly what every Dane is thinking, the exact reason why they should not and will not offer their apologies, and why you should shut up and get over it!

Dear mr. nermin
I have been following the discussions on this iste for 2 days now. I you can remember, it all started out with the discussion on respect for other peoples beliefs and values. You were offended by the 12 drawing of the Jyllands-posten. And that is quite allright with me.
BUT the amount of intolerance and meaningless acqusations that has come out of your hatefull scribleries, makes me think of a mad man. How can you demand respect about your beliefs and religion when you have done nothing but attacking everything that wasn´t islamic.
It doesn´t make sense, so please stop writing your babble if you don´t wan´t to engage in a constructive dialog.
Kindest Regards
Mads

And that's exactly the point, nermin, of disagreement. The right to mock you or anyone, including ourselves, is what we are trying to protect. Agreed, it should be used in moderation; but if you are strong in your faith, then being mocked should not harm you. It certainly didnt bother the prophet Elijah.

what i say is that if you have chosen certain style and way in life donot impose it to the rest of poeple

I don't. Unlike the leaders of religions and other monomaniacal beliefs like Communism and Nazism.

Bob Doney

i know it is hard to argue with you about god or religion .i donot want to make you belive in god as you are miles away from that..but what i say is that if you have chosen certain style and way in life donot impose it to the rest of poeple..and donot say that you donot because yourmocking tone to everything concerning religion and god is obvious..solive and belive in what you want but donot mock others ..you can approve gayes marriages but the other have the right to disapprove..is not th eminimum of democrasy and freedom you gave us a headacke awith..

osama ben laden was not present when you gave palestine for teh jews to ocupy an dkick its peole out to livein exile and make theie masccre every days. and benlden ws present when you launched your crusade war for over 400 years killing even the pilgrims . not differntiating between muslims and jews...benladen was notthere when france killed one million algerian during its bloody occupation. he also was not there when the eurppean countries divided our islamic countries as dividing a big cake and now they return again after the oil and will not leave till they ger assured that last drio of oil is finished...you should thank benladen for giving you such a gift tohang all your agressions on him.also ben laden is not supported by any religious authority like your churches were doing when it was blessing jes burning by hitler and ben laden is even stripped from his saudi nationality by his country...what do you want more than that....at least no sungle islamic country support him ....but look at yourself

To add to Bob's last post, I might just say that the world's fastest growing 'religion' may be Islam; but according to the World Values Survey there are more people moving away from organised religious belief to agnosticism or Deism every year than are adding to the numbers of any religion.
So, if your quarrel, nermin, is with the Godless West, or Godless Modernity, or Godless Whoever, then you're losing.
Of course, you're welcome to convert whatever fundamentalist Christians are left when the secular humanists are done. Theyll fit right in to Dar-ul-islam.

with its idealogy of trinity and redeemer and savior and son and father and all these shit

Your respectfulness for other people's beliefs seems to be wearing a bit thin, Nermin. Still, it's an advantage of having no religion that you can't offend me because of my beliefs. Yah, boo, sucks!!

By the way, you keep informing us that Islam is the fastest growing religion, and saying that this indicates that it must be the best way to live. To my mind the reason is because in times of rapid change, and in the face of fear, people look for certainty in an uncertain world. Islam seems to offer this certainty. It's interesting that Islam is growing fastest in places and communities where deprivation and social division are higher.

The reality is that certainty is a delusion, as any quantum physicist will tell you. The biggest fear of all, of course, is the fear of death, and the old religions hold out an escape from it. It's likely to be a complete hoax, but it seems to cheer people up to believe that death is not the end.

If and when the human race grows up, the old, authoritarian religions will die away. It may take centuries more, and humanity may destroy itself in the meantime, but we can hope!

Bob Doney

see how churchs every where act.....thi sis christianty which claim to be love and mercy and who clapped you on your right cheek turn the left to him..hhahah...you said.

Now you know why some of us don't like any religions!.
my reply yes i know very well why majority of you dono follow any religion and i said that before..because christianity fails to convince anyone who has mind with its idealogy of trinity and redeemer and savior and son and father and all these shit but this is in not th ecase in islam where we worship the one god, the creator of this universe...mohamad is a mere great prophet so there is a big differance between christianity and judasim so you must not think that all people will be like you ...away from religion

Hello everyone,

I wanna thank each and everyone of you from the bottom of my heart, for your "support Denmark"-campaign.

It's heartwarming to see who's your true friends and allies in troubled times.

Today, our freedom of speech is under attack from the muslim world, so we all need to face this threat to be able to continue or lives and "business as usual" in the future.

Pls keep up the good work and support, we need it,

Once again, thank you and good bless,

Thomas Nielsen
Copenhagen,
Denmark

Aman:
I will not address your accusations as you have got them all wrong. You have let your emotions rule.

You want to blame the Eurpoeans and American for attacking Muslims. In reality you should be blaming Osama bin Laden for it was he that brought me and many other infidels out of our stupor.

These pages shows how tolerant are the Europeans?
They believe that they are right, and so; everybody else is bad and wrong!!
You ask the Muslims to leave your Europe, ok but first stop steeling our resources, get out of our countries, what are you doing in Iraq ? in Afghanistan?
Europeans and Westerns have done horrible things not only to Muslims but to the whole Human race; USA has killed hundreds of thousands of civilians in Japan with the nuclear bombs, they have killed millions in World wars 1 & 2 , and used the poor people of Africa and Asia as fuel for their dirty wars.
So , in comparison ; Your elected governments have killed more than 30 Million man and woman during the last century, while you blame Islam for some individuals behavior.
Islam is against the killing of civilians, but the explosions in NY, London , Madrid are just the reaction of your attacks on Muslims.
I wish that this attacks will stop because I'm against the killing of civilians whatever their religion is , but the Europeans want to live secure in their country while killing others outside!!!
At the same time I fully support the Iraqi and the Afghani resistance which target the American and the western occupiers. And by the way the Danish soldiers in Iraq are now hiding like mice in their bases, Strange Danes, so brave in Denmark, cowards in Iraq
For that American who serves in Iraq, get out before you return to your country in a box. Your nothing but a contributor in the killing of the Iraqis. Shame on you

Yesterday you said nothing happens to someone who leaves islam, and that the rest is propaganda. I did a tiny bit of research, or rather "searching". And I found among other things this:
"in Egypt, if anyone left Islam, it was automatically assumed that he had become a Christian and therefore must be killed. Because of this, fundamentalists sent two men to ambush me and kill me. It happened when I was walking home from visiting a friend. It was only a fifteen- or twenty-minute walk through Giza . I was on Tersae Street , near my home, when I saw two men standing in front of a grocery shop. They we redressed traditionally with the long, white robes, long beards and head coverings. I thought they were just customers. I never imagined they would do anything to me.

When I reached the shop, they stopped me, and then suddenly both pulled out knives and began trying to stab me."
The link is www.arabicbible.com/testimonies/gabriel.htm

Now you will no doubt tell me these are lies. But you know what attracts me in the text: the civilised tone, the fact that it is rationally argued, and the sense it was written by an honourable man, someone who was able to question his preconceived beliefs, and was courageous in his quest for the truth. Someone I would be proud to call my friend, whatever his religion. And these qualities have been very rare in the "discussion" I have monitored on this site over the past few days, from your side certainly, but also from the "western" side. I have been appalled by the rudeness, the lack of logic, the yelling and the screaming. It has been an eye-opener. Never before have I been called an Arrian bastard, or has someone told me I carried genes of Nazi soldiers that occupied my country. I've had it ....

I am coming kind of late to this thread but as I have read over it, I have been amazed at the bold lies nermin has used to do a couple of things. One reason is of course to defend his faith but the other is that he is hoping to convert some of you.

The very first thing readers should know is that the Koran/Islam allows its followers to lie for the faith in order to promote it or defend it.

A lie he most often repeats is "islam is the fastest growing religion in the world." What he is implying is that the growth is is due to conversions. If it is true at all, it is mainly due to having a lot of children. I can say for sure, however, that the opposite is occuring in Russia where 2 million left Islam while only 2.5 thousand converted...

http://www.interfax-religion.com/?act=news&div=513

His next bold lie, "of course not there is not versus in quran say to kill non muslim "

From the Koran...

9:5 Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the unbelievers wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

Nermin's 1st cry will be that 9.5 is 'out of context'. Nermin please explain that to all those Muslims who are using it today to justify killing unbelievers.

The Koran is flush with such violence against everybody but muslims. Do not think that the Koran is meant for another era as many non-Christians are apt to do. For Muslims the Koran is the actual words of Allah and valid for ALL time.

Usually it is about this time that people bring up bad verses in the Bible and about past Christian violence. While true. that does not give Muslims a free pass. If it was wrong for Christians then, it is certainly wrong for Muslims now.

The last and most bold lie of them all, "islam is an intermediate religion .no extremism in islam".

Nermin...we are certainly not that stupid. All we have to do is read the daily news.
Ummmm....lets see....lets just name but a few countries that are dealing with Muslim extremists..

Sudan, Nigeria, India, England, America, France, Spain, Indonesia, Phillopines, Malaysia, Russia, Balklands, oh and the ever popular....Israel

So, as nermin was offering Islam to everybody, I in turn would like to make an offer to Muslims who are reading this to leave Islam. If you need help please start here...

http://www.faithfreedom.org/

...........The fact that Islaam is the fastest growing religion in the world today, is proof that our Creator has taken it upon Himself to perfect the Truth that He sent all His prophets and messengers with -- from Aadam [AS] to Muhammad [SAW]..........

Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world based on one fact:

Muslim women have more children than other women.

And Nermin,

Your arguments are just ramblings, you have no grasp of logic and worst of all, you simply fail to see the difference between individuals and races or nations.

Therefore we are all wasting our time debating with you.

First of all you need to take a large chill pill. Secondly I could not give a toss about religion. I have no sympathy for any faith. I am tolerant of all non violent behaviour. I do not believe in supernatural beings etc. No. So all your crazed rantings are to no avail I'm afraid.

There are a lot of ignorant easily influenced people in the world and it does not matter where they are from. In the US you have Christian fundamentalists that are collectively one sandwich short of a picnic. In the Muslim world this is also the case.
Your religion, in particular, is one that thrives on ignorance. The less people know about the truth the easier they are to control.
When a Fatwah was proclaimed against Mr Rushdie how many of the protesters had read or even seen a picture of the book. Between you and me, very very few. Thus it can be assumed that they were instructed what to think...
Most of the Muslim world's reaction to Jyllands Posten has come months after the cartoons were published and I assume that no newspapers have printed the cartoons in the Muslim Press so, ....again people are told what to think.

There are more wrongs than rights in the apparent conflict between the Christian and Muslim world.

You say that Europeans are racist and hate Muslims. In truth we don't care who comes to settle in our countries the only thing we ask is that they follow our rules. If you come looking for a safe haven free from persecution where your family is safe then the least you can do is to follow the local rules.

When Europeans go to Muslim countries, and I speak from personal experience, then you can be sure that your rules are followed perfectly.

We harbour Millions of Muslim economic and political refugees yet you say we are racist and belligerent.

Your arguement is ridiculous...you are the hateful one Nermin.