Russia, Georgia, and the Western Alliance
From the desk of Joshua Trevino on Sun, 2008-08-10 07:50
The Russian war aim in Georgia, inasmuch as it may be discerned after a bare 48 hours of full combat, appears to be what I said it likely is: “the Russians [will] fully occupy South Ossetia, along with the other secessionist region of Georgia, Abkhazia; declare them both independent or somehow annexed; and thoroughly punish the Georgians with a countrywide air campaign targeting what meager infrastructure there is.” As if to swiftly confirm the hypothesis, we see today that the Abkhazians have joined the war, thus opening a second front against the Georgians. Quite nearly everything that can go wrong for the Caucasian republic has: Georgian forces have been fully ejected from South Ossetia; Russian troops are landing on the Abkhaz coast (it’s unclear whether at Sukhumi or Ochamchira); Russian air power is hitting strategic targets throughout Georgia; and at this writing — just after dawn in the Caucasus — a general Russian offensive may be underway.
Mikheil Saakashvili’s government may have declared war and sued for peace in the space of a day, but events are in motion that render its wishes, contradictory as they are, wholly irrelevant.
Georgia’s American-trained armed forces may make it a fight, but there are only two things that will save the little republic now: it’s enemies’ forbearance, or America (and by extention, NATO) itself. It’s the latter that Saakashvili and the Georgians are appealing to now: the latter march in the Tbilisi streets to demand Western intervention; and the Georgian president somewhat histrionically declares, “If the whole world does not stop Russia today, then Russian tanks will be able to reach any other European capital.” Herein lies the tragedy of this war, not just for Georgia, but for the United States and the West in general. Help for Georgia is not on the way, and it will not be. The NATO countries are bound to inaction by their existing commitments and the logic of their own actions — in Serbia.
The Russian assault upon Georgia is justified — inasmuch as it is justifiable — on the same grounds as the 1999 NATO assault upon Serbia. A national minority desired secession, pursued that end with violent means, and called in a foreign protector when its struggle went bad. That foreign protector had its own agenda, of course: naivete, ignorance and self-regard fueled the Western intervention in Kosovo; and Machiavellian revisionism fuels the Russian intervention in Georgia. It must be remembered that the former led directly to the latter. In this space several months back, I warned that Kosovar independence would provide “a pretext for Russian action against American allies,” specifically in the Caucasus. And so it did, with Vladimir Putin retaliating for Kosovar independence by setting in motion the events that led to the present war. The Clinton Administration architects of the original Kosovo policy in 1999, and the Bush Administration architects who acquiesced to its logical end in 2008, bear a heavy responsibility for the blood shed in Georgia now.
Still, the ultimate responsibility is Russia’s, which is now a plainly and violently revisionist power. No amount of Western naivete, ignorance and self-regard, nor Georgian blundering, could create this war without Russia’s will to strife. That will springs from multiple causes, some rooted in the nature of autocracy, and some rooted in the nature of the Russian national character; and it is directed toward the overturning of what is, for Russia, the central strategic outcome of the Cold War’s end. The late Alexander Solzhenitsyn, quoted in Wayne Allensworth’s The Russian Question, expresses the Russian sense of that outcome clearly:
The trouble is not that the USSR broke up — that was inevitable. The real trouble, and a tangle for a long time to come, is that the breakup occurred mechanically along false Leninist borders, usurping from us entire Russian provinces. In several days, we lost 25 million ethnic Russians — 18 percent of our entire nation — and the government could not scrape up the courage even to take note of this dreadful event, a colossal historic defeat for Russia, and to declare its political disagreement with it.
Here, then, the source of the popular resonance of Moscow’s claims that it attacks Georgia to protect its own, with the concurrent surge of Cossack and faux-Cossack volunteers into Ossetia.
As Russian revisionism’s armed expression slowly crushes Georgia, the states with the most historical reason to fear Russia look on with mounting alarm. This extraordinary communique from the Presidents of Poland, Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia, prompted by the Georgian war, denounces Russia’s “imperialist and revisionist policy in the East of Europe” with startlingly undiplomatic language. These nations are members of NATO and the European Union, and they look to their putative allies now to provide them with the protection and assurance that they expect. Thus we see the war in the Caucasus evolve into a litmus test for the basic institutions of the West itself. If those institutions fail, especially in the eyes of its most vulnerable members, then the suffering in Georgia will, in the long run, be mere prelude.
@marcfans
Submitted by onecent on Mon, 2008-08-11 01:55.
Isn't it obvious that every reference or response to a racist fool like Armor, an anti-semitic jerk like amsterdamsky and the idiotic keppert just cheapens the discourse here.
BJ stuggles in my opinion for legitimacy against its distactors such as LGF that it is a racist site because those posters are fed here by other posters. They stay because they have a legitimacy that you give them. There are some idiots in this world that just aren't worthy of a response. Debating fools only drags everyone down to their level.
The content on this site is thought provoking and a good thing, it's too bad it is cheapened by debating the foolish trolls that have found a home here.
Georgia, Russia, and the mass media
Submitted by Armor on Mon, 2008-08-11 01:27.
I don't know how close Georgians are to Europeans, racially speaking. But if the media presents them as half-Europeans, while presenting Russians as non-Europeans, it can only mean that the media shares my view that Russians are European while Georgians are not!
To: Armor
Submitted by Atlanticist911 on Sun, 2008-08-10 23:14.
I know how fond you are of wikipedia, so...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colchis
Machiavellian, indeed
Submitted by HenrikRClausen on Sun, 2008-08-10 23:02.
Machiavellian revisionism fuels the Russian intervention in Georgia.
Paradoxically, I can't help having respect for the skilled way Russia does this. This is classical, no-compromise foreign policy backed by some serious firepower and a credible threat of using it. Like the West used to do things some decades ago, but has now largely been replaced by compromises, monetary support to odd groups such as the Palestinian terrorists etc.
Further, I see the Russian reaction as a 'response' to Georgia working for NATO membership. The way NATO expands looks, from a Russian point of view, like encroachment, not partnership. Taunting the Bear, as has been noted, can be a costly way to spend the 'peace dividend'.
Worse, however, these skirmishes with the Russians distract us from the much more severe challenge of Islamists undermining democracy, with violence as well as without.
It could have been avoided.
Submitted by onecent on Sun, 2008-08-10 18:13.
Georgia is effectively crushed.
Georgia's admission into NATO would have made a difference. So, again, the energy starved Europeans can ponder their hubris and stupidity on that failure. It's all so typical and historic, the European capacity to appease and then collapse under threat from fascist bullies.
Yes, the Europeans Union should send in the European army
Submitted by Rob the Ugly American on Sun, 2008-08-10 12:04.
oh, wait..
by the way, where's those hundreds of thousands of Europeans who marched against 'no blood for oil'?
Georgian Westerners
Submitted by Armor on Sun, 2008-08-10 17:20.
One of the links in Trevino's column refers to a NY Times article called "Taunting the Bear".
(Here's the link: "with Vladimir Putin retaliating for Kosovar independence by setting in motion the events that led to the present war")
I point to this article because it reminds me of what J.Laughland wrote yesterday in his column.
James Traub, the NYTimes journalist writes: "while Russia has a massive advantage in firepower, Georgia, an open, free-market, more-or-less-democratic nation that sees itself as a distant outpost of Europe, enjoys a decisive rhetorical and political edge."
--> Being free-market and democratic doesn't make them European. (But it makes them better partners than the Turks). Georgia is like Armenia, which is a civilized nation surrounded by muslims. Being civilized does not make them European.
I think Georgia mainly enjoys its edge over Russia in the "western media".
another excerpt: - "Georgia has become a poster child for Westernization"
another one: "The Georgians never accepted their Soviet identity, and preserved their language, culture, religious practice and sense of national identity"
--> I think the Georgians are right to hold to their language, culture, religious practice and sense of national identity. I wish Europeans were allowed to do the same and say that Russia is European while Georgia is not.
James Traub's own opinion: "For the West, the core issue is the survival of democratic, or at least independent, states along Russia’s frontier."
He doesn't say if he is referring to the independence of Georgia or of South Ossetia. I am very much in favor of everyone's independance and everyone's survival, from Tibet to Ossetia, but I think our priority in "the West" should be the survival of Europeans in Europe and America. The Georgians know who they are. We need to know who we are too. We should forget about "the West". We are Europeans, and Georgians are not. It makes no difference whether their government favors democracy and free market. I don't know who is right in this war, but we should recognize that the European side is Russia, not Georgia (and this is why the NY Times will tend to support Georgia).
@Armor
Submitted by onecent on Sun, 2008-08-10 18:02.
Hey, Armor, if being "free-market and democratic", "civilized" and Christian doesn't make a group "European" in a cultural sense I don't know what does. But, I suspect you've betrayed your underlying prejudices. Is it skin tone that's the barrier to your acceptance of them as acceptable Europeans? There isn't much left to rule out reading your comments, is there?
Your last paragraph is disgusting. Basically the Georgians..."We are Europeans, and Georgians are not"... are expendable. It really underscores your ugly racist mentality.
This is my last response to you because people like you need to be identified as the racists that they are and then ignored into oblivion.
Georgia for ever
Submitted by Armor on Sun, 2008-08-10 18:58.
"Hey, Armor, if being "free-market and democratic", "civilized" and Christian doesn't make a group "European" in a cultural sense I don't know what does."
Tell that to the Georgians. It is unlikely they think of themselves as European. Unlike westerners, who are brainwashed by their mass media, "the Georgians have preserved their language, culture, religious practice and sense of national identity".
another source (I don't know what it's worth):
"Despite some superficial resemblance and intermingling, The Georgians, ethnically and linguistically, are unrelated to the Indo-European origins."
"Your last paragraph is disgusting. Basically the Georgians..."We are Europeans, and Georgians are not"... are expendable. It really underscores your ugly racist mentality."
I didn't say I support Russia against the Georgians. I said the Russians are European, like me, whether or not Putin is right. The Western media like to blur that distinction by claiming that Georgia is on our side, the "Western" side.
"This is my last response to you because people like you need to be identified as the racists that they are and then ignored into oblivion."
What a shame! I would have asked you why you think South Ossetia should be denied its independence. Alas, I will never know the answer.
@ Armor
Submitted by traveller on Sun, 2008-08-10 21:25.
Russians are Europeans???
You really don't know anything about Russia do you?
The only Russian sector where you definitely find ethnic Europeans is Northern European Russia from Petersburg to the Ural with a large contingent of Europeans in Moscow.
All the other sectors have a majority non-Europeans.
On top of that, if you scratch a European Russian you will probably find a large dose of Mongolian blood in his veins. The mix is very obvious.
I never found a real Georgian who didn't look European.
South Ossetia has a total population of 70.000 people, muslims from the Ottoman time, mixed, from Stalin's time with "ethnic" Russians.
The original Georgian kingdom comprised today's Georgia, most of today's Azerbaidjan, North Iran, even Tabriz was in Georgia,most of Armenia and around that kingdom were "dependent" kingdoms under the Georgian protection, like Trebizon in today's Turkey.
The moslim Persians and Ottomans nibbled slowly territory away and converted Caucasians to Islam, settling different areas as moslim "countries", like Alana which is Northern Ossetia today. Those moslim countries were in old Georgian territory and the people were Arians and definitely European ethnics, except the imported Ottoman Turkmens.
America cannot be involved
Submitted by Steiner on Sun, 2008-08-10 10:27.
If Russia decides to go beyond those regions that have opted to secede from Georgia, then it is encumbent on Europe, not the U.S., to respond...
As regards to the U.S., there are a few interested parties, like Iran, North Korea, Pakistan, Afghanistan, China...that can capitalize from America getting involved. America must not get involved.
Certainly, this is another reason to convince Americans that it is best to drill in Alaska for oil..and leave the oil politics for good.
@ Joshua Trevino
Submitted by traveller on Sun, 2008-08-10 08:47.
Correct analysis and conclusion.
May I add that this could be a very critical test for the EU, which the EU is going to lose.
I don't see a big problem for Poland, but definitely for Ukraïna very shortly from now.
The EU will talk about it and not do anything, except criticising the US if they take some action, which I don't see either.